Grid no longer working in Affinity Photo V2

[Ron P.]

4 hours ago, Sempervivum said:

still this issue is not fixed

It's not broken, so nothing to fix. Numerous people have expressed their desire to have this reverted to how it is in V1. You need to add your voice to that in the Feedback for Affinity Products form.

[Sempervivum]

"It's not broken, so nothing to fix." This is nitpicking. In V1 the grid was switched on by Ctrl+Shift+'. In V2 this doesn't work anymore, thus it is broken.

 

[walt.farrell]

6 minutes ago, Sempervivum said:

"It's not broken, so nothing to fix." This is nitpicking. In V1 the grid was switched on by Ctrl+Shift+'. In V2 this doesn't work anymore, this it is broken.

 

Still nitpicking, I know, but the grid is still switched on if you do that. It's just a different kind of grid, until you configure one you like better.

[Old Bruce]

The problem is that now we have a default pixel grid of 1 pixel. So if the grid were shown there would be grid lines with no empty space between them until we zoom in quite high. I think what is needed is a default size that we set, say divisions of 256 or 32 pixels and that would stick as our default.

[R C-R]

12 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Still nitpicking, I know, but the grid is still switched on if you do that. It's just a different kind of grid, until you configure one you like better.

Specifically it is a different kind of "automatic" grid that doesn't seem to offer anything as useful as the dynamic "automatic" option in V1.

See below about what seems to have changed in the latest retail version!

Edited May 18, 2023 by R C-R
re-edited cause it is a AP only issue

[R C-R]

3 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

The problem is that now we have a default pixel grid of 1 pixel.

I only tested with AD but in the just released 2.1.0 build, that no longer seems to be the case. It appears to work very much like in V1!

[walt.farrell]

Just now, R C-R said:

I only tested with AD but in the just released 2.1.0 build, that no longer seems to be the case. It appears to work very much like in V1!

Wasn't the default pixel grid a Photo-only change for V2?

[R C-R]

1 minute ago, walt.farrell said:

Wasn't the default pixel grid a Photo-only change for V2?

DOH! I guess so because it's auto default still is not-so-automatically set to 1 px, so depending on the document size it may require zooming way in to see it.

[R C-R]

31 minutes ago, Ron P. said:

It's not broken...

Arguably, it is broken because the default automatic grid does not behave anything like it does, not just in V1 but also (as I just realized) as it does in AD or APub V2.

IOW, there is nothing automatic about how it adapts to different zoom levels.

[walt.farrell]

7 minutes ago, Red Sands said:

But that 'Automatic' does absolutely nothing is laughable

It doesn't do "nothing". It gives you a 1px x 1px grid.

I have no idea why they decided that's a good meaning of automatic.

[R C-R]

32 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I have no idea why they decided that's a good meaning of automatic.

I suspect they didn't, that it is just an oversight in AP V2, a coding error that should eventually get fixed.

[Dimitrios]

There is also another thread to report the same argument, because they say that this not a bug...  here!

Maybe we have to come back and post again every day, so hopefully someone will pay attention (hey! I said hopefully) 

[R C-R]

8 minutes ago, Dimitrios said:

There is also another thread to report the same argument, because they say that this not a bug...  here!

That seems to be referring to the default grid not being saved or sticky so for each new document the automatic setting remains the default, or have I misunderstood what you mean?

[Dimitrios]

9 hours ago, R C-R said:

That seems to be referring to the default grid not being saved or sticky so for each new document the automatic setting remains the default, or have I misunderstood what you mean?

 

Well, actually it's almost the same discussion (I think).

[iconoclast]

I think, good solutions would be if everyone could create his own basic grid and set it to default or if Photo would remember the grid one used last, as other apps do. I don't use grids very often in Photo, but I think a 1x1 pixel grid doesn't make much sense. I suppose that happened by accident. On the other hand, it is not too heavy to simply choose a preset or even create a grid after creating a new document. So it is nothing at least I really suffer about. It was only a little bit confusing initially.

[JayR]

This behaviour gets really annoying when you have to configure the grid before you can use it every time that you open a new photo. When I am opening and checking a lot of photos I often go back to using V1 as it is just easier.

[lepr]

52 minutes ago, iconoclast said:

[...] but I think a 1x1 pixel grid doesn't make much sense. I suppose that happened by accident.

We were told by Dan C of Serif that the Automatic grid was deliberately changed to a 1 pixel grid in Photo 2:

"The 'automatic' grid in Affinity Photo has been changed in V2 to a Pixel grid, meaning it may not be visible until you zoom in. You can change the grid from Automatic to other settings if you wish to have larger divisions than 1px.

This is however logged with our team as a requested improvement, to return the V1 grid behaviour, or allow the user the choice for the 'Automatic' setting, but is not specifically a bug within the apps."

 

 

[iconoclast]

@ lepr

OK, I think it is not a problem that the Automatic Grid is a pixel-grid. The question is: Why is it a 1-pixel-grid? A pixel-grid may make sense, but who will need a 1-pixel-grid and for what? Pixels are in fact already a grid. Why should anyone mark the edges of the single pixels with grid lines?

[Dan C]

I can confirm that the above quote is correct - however I'll be sure to raise this once again with our developers now that v2.1 has been released, as I certainly understand our users desires for this to either return to previous behaviour, or allow for an option to change the default automatic behaviour.

[Old Bruce]

6 hours ago, iconoclast said:

but who will need a 1-pixel-grid and for what? Pixels are in fact already a grid. Why should anyone mark the edges of the single pixels with grid lines?

Pixel perfect work uses a 1 pixel grid. People designing icons. It is useful for Snapping to.

[iconoclast]

1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

Pixel perfect work uses a 1 pixel grid. People designing icons. It is useful for Snapping to.

OK, you're possibly right (I was afraid of that there might be at least one good reason), but that's a minority of users, isn't it? Should a default setting be made for such a minority of users? While many others seem to suffer?

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

Pixel perfect work uses a 1 pixel grid. People designing icons. It is useful for Snapping to.

OK, fine, but in what sense is this "automatic"? Why is it the default? Also, every grid option is useful for snapping, so what does that have to do with it?

(These are questions for the mods/devs, not you.)

[Old Bruce]

I don't disagree with the premise that the current way of working is very poor. I do think that we should be able to set a default for the automatic setting that is not the current 1 unit of measurement. 

Out of curiosity has anyone been able to set the Automatic to anything other than the current 1 (unit of measurement)?

[walt.farrell]

11 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Out of curiosity has anyone been able to set the Automatic to anything other than the current 1 (unit of measurement)?

In Photo 2? No, you have to use View > Grid and Axis... and switch to the Basic or Advanced tab, or pick a Preset from the dropdown.

[Old Bruce]

Thanks Walt and R C-R, that is what I thought.

The Automatic setting then just seems like a simple waste of space then.