Still no .dds support?

[ThatVeryHooniz]

I get that not every feature can be implemented. And there has to be concessions made in places, and that affinity isn't a huge company yet.

But the fact that there STILL isn't any sort of .dds support at this point is crazy considering just how common that file type is in 3d applications. I bought Photo 2, but still find myself using photoshop more purely because I can work with the format I need to work with in photoshop through a plugin.

 

There doesn't even need to be native support. If the intel or nvidia plugin for photoshop could be used on photo that would fix the issue perfectly. It's just the fact that there's NO support for .dds files that makes it very hard to actually switch.

 

This isn't a new request either, I've seen people asking for this since 2018. I get that it isn't a very glamorous or advertiser friendly feature. But Photoshop got its userbase by unfortunately being the best option available, and being the best option means working for as many people as possible in as many situations as possible.

 

Basically, in short. We need .dds support, it's necessary at this point, whether that be through supporting existing plugins or adding native support is irrelevant.

[DigitalTux]

On 12/3/2022 at 3:47 AM, ThatVeryHooniz said:

I get that not every feature can be implemented. And there has to be concessions made in places, and that affinity isn't a huge company yet.

But the fact that there STILL isn't any sort of .dds support at this point is crazy considering just how common that file type is in 3d applications. I bought Photo 2, but still find myself using photoshop more purely because I can work with the format I need to work with in photoshop through a plugin.

 

There doesn't even need to be native support. If the intel or nvidia plugin for photoshop could be used on photo that would fix the issue perfectly. It's just the fact that there's NO support for .dds files that makes it very hard to actually switch.

 

This isn't a new request either, I've seen people asking for this since 2018. I get that it isn't a very glamorous or advertiser friendly feature. But Photoshop got its userbase by unfortunately being the best option available, and being the best option means working for as many people as possible in as many situations as possible.

 

Basically, in short. We need .dds support, it's necessary at this point, whether that be through supporting existing plugins or adding native support is irrelevant.

HUGE +1 for this, kind of shocked its still not supported... While having native support for .DDS would be very nice or even at the very least support for one of the plugins intel/nvidia would be incredible. Always having to fire up the old PS version we have with plugin or even GIMP just to be able to do this simple task.

[ThatVeryHooniz]

It's crazy to me honestly. It's such a commonly used file format for this kinda work and it's such a big thing keeping me from working in affinity instead of just booting up photoshop or like you said, even GIMP.

 

Even indirect support(The ability to use photoshop's file format plugins) would be huge.

[ThatVeryHooniz]

I know what a .dds file is, and I know there are other ways to deal with it. But not being able to import/export from Affinity Photo is really inconvenient and slows down my workflow massively. There are multiple plugins for photoshop to deal with this file format, but as of now there's absolutely no way to open a .dds file in AP directly other than converting it first, which as I mentioned before, really slows things down and makes the whole program really inconvenient.

[DigitalTux]

I agree with @ThatVeryHooniz, I work with .dds everyday, and being that I would have to have AP v1 open along side either PS/GIMP/paint.net just to handle .dds. It was kind of redundant and got me using AP less and less with V1, now V2 I purchased it instantly with optimism but then was very let down firstly with the decision to go with .msix only installers (at this stage) and then also still no .dds support, when I now see on these forums its been requested since approx 4 years already I lost some hope it will ever come, so sadly had to refund v2, as again it would be redundant in my specific situation to use 2 of essentially the same type of software simultaniously to get my work done. 

[Marcurios]

This is why i will not buy Affinity V2...
I was one of the people that asked for DDS support back in 2018, and the fact that Affinity devs didn't bother to even consider supporting DDS made me decide to not use their software anylonger, also Photoshop, even the older version is still so much better than Affinity in every single way, that it seems to me that the people at Affinity don't really understand how to make user friendly software and listen to their customers wishes.

I actually found this out just now by googling for Affinity V2 DDS support, cause i was playing with the idea to upgrade my V1, but the first letdown was that you cannot upgrade to V2, you have to buy the complete program again, that is not a real big deal since it's not very expensive, but no DDS support is a no brainer for me, and it also kinda pisses me off that they haven't listened to the wishes of their user base..so i'm done with it.

I rather pay 12 dollars a month for Photoshop CC and Lightroom for years on end than a one time 75 euro's for APV2, also Photoshop CC and Lightroom are miles ahead of Affinity still, there is no way you can compare the two in output quality. Adobe is still the best...kinda sad actually cause this had great potential a few years back, but it didn't deliver.

[SoCuul]

19 hours ago, Marcurios said:

... and the fact that Affinity devs didn't bother to even consider supporting DDS made me decide to not use their software anylonger

What makes you think that they have never considered supporting it? It makes sense that there's a lot of other priorities they've focused on over the last few years.

19 hours ago, Marcurios said:

..., but the first letdown was that you cannot upgrade to V2, you have to buy the complete program again

You can upgrade here? It gives you 25% off the entire suite, and you get hundreds of dollars worth of extra content for free.

If you mean for the individual apps, it lists why that's unfortunately possible on the same page:

"Unfortunately, due to complications with our apps being available on the Microsoft and Apple App Stores, we can only offer upgrade pricing on the Universal License at this time. Also, this offer is only available from us directly – you cannot claim this upgrade discount via the App Stores."

 

19 hours ago, Marcurios said:

..., also Photoshop CC and Lightroom are miles ahead of Affinity still, there is no way you can compare the two in output quality.

How is the output quality worse from an affinity program? Affinity Photo is certainly not the same as Photoshop, but the output quality is not one of the differences they share.

 

Also, you can convert png/jpg to DDS with just a little command-line support from imagemagick. If you wanted to, you could automate it so you can drop a file on the icon of the script to automatically convert the file to DDS.

[SoCuul]

If you want a quick script to do this, just tell me which operating system you're on.

[Marcurios]

Eeeeh, seriously ?

if atleast hundreds of people asked for it in the forums for more than 5 years, it's quite obvious isn't it ?

And yeah, you can upgrade, TO THE ENTIRE SUITE !
That is not what i want and ment..come on dude...
And the reason they give is bollocks, i'm a amateur programmer, i know..

You probably never scrutinized the images at 400% size to see what happens when you apply filters did you ?
I do cause i work with high res textures for my game developing, and i zoom in to see what happens, cause
every filter you apply can negatively affect your image in that you lose image quality.
And affinity has a lot of filters that degrades image quality very fast.
I must admit that there also some handy features that work well, but if you go and compare it to Adobe it lacks behind.

I don't want to convert DDS, i want to work in a layered document and be able to export that as DDS.
I can convert DDS files myself in many applications, even free ones like Paint.net.
That's why it is kinda silly that a paid program which is supposed to replace Photoshop (that what they advertised with years ago when i bought it)
can't do that, and that there is no plugin available to do that, for a good programmer it should be a single day of work to make a working plugin for this.
But yet in more than thousands days they never bothered..

I found none of your replies really helpful or interesting, sorry..
I also won't react to follow ups anymore..i have better things to do than converse online.

[Gripsholm Lion]

15 minutes ago, Marcurios said:

I found none of your replies really helpful or interesting, sorry..

😲

17 minutes ago, Marcurios said:

I also won't react to follow ups any more..i have better things to do than converse online.

Probably for the best by the look of it...

[AffinityMakesMeWonder]

36 minutes ago, Marcurios said:

Eeeeh, seriously ?

if atleast hundreds of people asked for it in the forums for more than 5 years, it's quite obvious isn't it ?

And yeah, you can upgrade, TO THE ENTIRE SUITE !
That is not what i want and ment..come on dude...
And the reason they give is bollocks, i'm a amateur programmer, i know..

You probably never scrutinized the images at 400% size to see what happens when you apply filters did you ?
I do cause i work with high res textures for my game developing, and i zoom in to see what happens, cause
every filter you apply can negatively affect your image in that you lose image quality.
And affinity has a lot of filters that degrades image quality very fast.
I must admit that there also some handy features that work well, but if you go and compare it to Adobe it lacks behind.

I don't want to convert DDS, i want to work in a layered document and be able to export that as DDS.
I can convert DDS files myself in many applications, even free ones like Paint.net.
That's why it is kinda silly that a paid program which is supposed to replace Photoshop (that what they advertised with years ago when i bought it)
can't do that, and that there is no plugin available to do that, for a good programmer it should be a single day of work to make a working plugin for this.
But yet in more than thousands days they never bothered..

I found none of your replies really helpful or interesting, sorry..
I also won't react to follow ups anymore..i have better things to do than converse online.

Stay with Photoshop - you happy, we happy…

There are alot of features that goes first priority compair to support DDS/DXF, like Blend Tool, Spiral Tool, more AI-tools etc etc…

[DoneItWrongAgain]

+1

Just ran into this limitation yesterday, and was surprised DDS was not supported.

Ended up installing imagemagik to do the conversion from the command line

[crayons]

+1 

Yes DDS support PLEASE!  so I/WE don't have to use a converter or add another program.

[Bit Disappointed]

Support for DSS seems to be pretty widespread, which is fair and completely expected as 3D is now mainstream among creatives, so it's a bit ridiculous to hear one type of customer complain that another type of customer has this need.

We have left the IT landscape of the 1990s, but it's as if someone is stuck in the past. With each passing day, the gap between reality and them grows even wider.

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Here's a list of more widely recognized software programs that support DDS (DirectDraw Surface) files, which are commonly used in game development and 3D graphics:

Adobe Photoshop: With a suitable plugin, Photoshop can open and edit DDS files. NVIDIA provides a plugin specifically designed for this purpose.

GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program): This is a free and open-source image editing program capable of opening and editing DDS files through a plugin.

Paint.NET: Initially designed as a replacement for Microsoft Paint, Paint.NET supports the DDS format directly without the need for additional plugins.

Microsoft Paint 3D: The newer version of Microsoft Paint, Paint 3D, also supports DDS files.

Corel PHOTO-PAINT: Part of CorelDRAW Graphics Suite, this program can handle DDS files, often used by professionals in graphics editing.

ACDSee Photo Studio: Known for its photo viewing and editing capabilities, ACDSee also offers support for DDS files.

XnView: This is a free tool that can open and convert a wide variety of image formats, including DDS.

IrfanView: Another popular, lightweight image viewer program that supports a wide range of formats, including DDS.

AND the DSS format is relevant for customers working in relation to The DDS (DirectDraw Surface) format that is primarily used in industries and fields related to game development, 3D graphics, and sometimes in professional imaging. As such, the format is supported by several specialized software programs, particularly those used for creating and manipulating textures, 3D models, and environments. Here are some specialist programs that use the DDS format:

Autodesk 3ds Max: A professional 3D modeling, animation, and rendering software used widely in game development and film visual effects. It supports DDS for texturing and rendering purposes.

Unity: A popular game engine that supports DDS files, mainly for game textures and environment maps.

Unreal Engine: Another leading game development engine, which uses DDS for textures and materials in game design.

Blender: While already mentioned, it's worth reiterating Blender's capabilities in 3D modeling and animation, where DDS files are often used for texturing.

Substance Painter by Adobe: A newer, more specialized tool for 3D texture painting, which supports DDS files for texturing 3D models.

CryEngine: A game engine designed for highly advanced graphics and used in some AAA games, supporting DDS for texturing.

Autodesk Maya: Similar to 3ds Max, Maya is also a comprehensive 3D software used in professional animation, modeling, simulation, and rendering, with support for DDS files.

ZBrush: While primarily known for sculpting and modeling, ZBrush can also work with DDS files, particularly in texturing detailed 3D models.

These programs are highly specialized and are typically used by professionals in game development, film, animation, and advanced 3D modeling. The DDS format is favored in these applications for its efficiency in storing compressed texture data, which is crucial for real-time rendering in games and high-quality renderings in visual effects and animation.

[BigRam]

Over seven years now, and this is still being completely ignored.