Pšenda Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Shape group in APhoto contain Rectangle and Ellipse Tool, in ADesigner not. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 All indications are that that's intentional. The Rectangle and Ellipse shapes each have their own icon in Tools for AD, unlike in AP. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 This inconsistency makes little sense to me. Rectangle and Ellipse are unstacked in Designer but not in Publisher or Photo. It makes sense for Photo not to have un-stacked shape tools because shapes are used less frequently in a photo editor. Publisher has the shortest Tools panel so there's definitely room for Rectangle and Ellipse. I'd argue that a regular Rectangle tool would be used by more people than the Ellipse Picture Frame tool. I don't think the space savings are important enough to have an inconsistency but it's not a big deal, I can find the tools when I need them. LukasMizera 1 Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.0.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 10 hours ago, walt.farrell said: All indications are that that's intentional. The Rectangle and Ellipse shapes each have their own icon in Tools for AD, unlike in AP. Yes, but then if you need to use the Rectangle or Ellipse Tool, you "must" put them on the Toolbar as separate icons, where of course they take up valuable space - where other important tools won't fit. Not only is this a pointless and unnecessary inconsistency between ASuite applications (or even between Personas within one application), but it also significantly limits the usability of the Toolbar, which I cannot configure according to my needs. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 By the way, it is this same way in V1. Photo has the Rounded Rectangle, Rectangle, and Ellipse included in the "multi" shape tool. Designer does not. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 But unlike version 1, where there was no need to place anything on the Tool panel anymore (there were no other tools available to place on the panel, so there was no need to group the shape tools), version 2 added a lot of useful tools (thanks for those) which are far more useful on the panel than the Rectangle and Ellipse tools. So compared to version 1, in version 2 it is a much bigger bug/mistake in the design (and it is not just an unnecessary inconsistency between applications/personas), that the Rectangle and Ellipse tools are not part of the Shape tools group. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 16 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Photo has the Rounded Rectangle, Rectangle, and Ellipse included in the "multi" shape tool. Designer does not. Just to clarify, the Rounded Rectangle Tool is part of the multi-shape group in ADesigner as well, see my screenshot in the first post. So it's really just the Rectangle and Ellipse Tool, which are two positions that can be used for more useful tools. walt.farrell 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 (edited) On 12/2/2022 at 1:13 AM, walt.farrell said: All indications are that that's intentional. The Rectangle and Ellipse shapes each have their own icon in Tools for AD, unlike in AP. Just to add - APhoto (new version 2.5.3) has the ability to define tools for all individual shapes, and yet its common/multishape tool contains all these shapes - including rectangle and ellipse. On the other hand, ADesigner does not include these basic shapes in the common/multishape tool. So this is an obvious and unnecessary mistake. Thanks in advance for the correction. P.S. Thank you for the fix - correct naming of the panel. Edited July 24 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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