spinhead Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Short version: is it possible for me to change the tab bevavior in the transform dialog box? I realize the answer is "No, it's not possible." This is me asking for the sake of ticking all the boxes before heaving the big ol' sad sigh and living with it. Details: One of the handful of maddening issues with v1 of Photo and Designer was that in the transform dialog, the tab order was x-position —> width —> y-position —> height which is inefficient and confusing. While that's corrected in v2, h'ray, I can't use v2 because of more egregious design flaws. So, the question: is it possible for me to change this behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, spinhead said: x-position —> width —> y-position —> height In V1 or V2 of all the Affinity apps on my Mac the order is X, Y, W, H, R, S. I do not know if it is different for the Windows versions. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinhead Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 On my Mac, this is what happens: Screen Recording 2022-11-25 at 5.37.22 PM.mov In v2, it goes X, Y, W, H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, spinhead said: On my Mac, this is what happens: What macOS version are you using? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 The only way I know of to fix this in v1 is to dock the Transform panel and then re-start Affinity. AFAIK the tab order is only correct when the panel is docked. Old Bruce and R C-R 2 Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeTO said: AFAIK the tab order is only correct when the panel is docked. I never noticed that because I always have it docked, but you are right about that. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinhead Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Ah, so it hasn't been fixed in v2; it just appears to be fixed because they've removed Separated Mode. So: I understand the points made. All are correct. Original question still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, spinhead said: Ah, so it hasn't been fixed in v2; it just appears to be fixed because they've removed Separated Mode. FWIW, it has nothing to do with separated mode, only with docked vs. floating studio panels (the kind you can 'tear off' from the main document window). MikeTO 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_J Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On my Windows computer, Tab cycles through the Transform Panel fields in the same order, regardless of if the panel is docked or floating (in V1 and V2). Tab order: X, Y, W, H, R, S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, Brian_J said: On my Windows computer, Tab cycles through the Transform Panel fields in the same order, regardless of if the panel is docked or floating (in V1 and V2). Tab order: X, Y, W, H, R, S So this seems to be a bug limited to the undocked Transform panel in the Mac version. Brian_J and MikeTO 2 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinhead Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, R C-R said: FWIW, it has nothing to do with separated mode, only with docked vs. floating studio panels (the kind you can 'tear off' from the main document window). How does one dock a panel in Separated Mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 11 hours ago, spinhead said: How does one dock a panel in Separated Mode? Obviously you can't do that but I was referring to the difference in V1 of the tab order when in non-separated mode on Macs. It's the same in V2, where there is no longer a separated mode. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinhead Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 A distinction without a difference. Again, original question hasn't been answered during this foray into the surrounding scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, spinhead said: Again, original question hasn't been answered during this foray into the surrounding scenery. 16 hours ago, spinhead said: So, the question: is it possible for me to change this behavior? No. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, spinhead said: A distinction without a difference. How so? The tab order is different when docked vs. undocked & it should not be. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, R C-R said: The tab order is different when docked vs. undocked & it should not be. Definitely a bug. R C-R 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, loukash said: Definitely a bug. I think so, too. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff NathanC Posted February 16, 2023 Staff Share Posted February 16, 2023 Hey @loukash apologies on the late reply, The undocked/docked tabbing order difference is an issue logged with the developers, so I've bumped this one with your report. MikeTO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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