jeffreydevey Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 As the title states, the color picker isn't picking accurate colors when painting in the Pixel Persona. This appears to be a persistent issue, and not isolated to a single session. Screen recording attached as an example. color-picker-bug-affinity-designer-2-ipad.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Which document color format, color profile are you using? black is a bit nasty in cmyk, as we have k only black, rich black, CMY only black. Your chosen black shows a very rich black, total ink about 300, this may explain the issue. in my experiments, i always get k only black when using color sampler. And in many cases, the sampled color wont get activated by first click, but requires multiple clicks, or even sampling a different color. do you have any adjustment layers above the pixel layer, or other layers blending above? Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreydevey Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 @NotMyFault The document is CMYK, but the issue persists with other colors as well (attached example 2). I'm using the same document mode and workflow I've carried over from v1, and never experienced the issue with that version. If I assign vector objects the 100% K swatch and the rich black swatch, respectively, then switch to the Pixel Persona and assign the same swatches to my brush, the 100% K swatch appears to match, but the rich black does not (attached example 3). No adjustment layers are in effect in either example, and no "wet edges" or other settings are in effect on the pixel brush that would give me that result. I have gotten the same results with other brushes as well, including the stock round "Basic" brushes. color-picker-bug-affinity-designer-2-ipad-ex2.mov color-picker-bug-affinity-designer-2-ipad-ex3.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Ok, can confirm now. happens only in v2. exact steps to reproduce: create new print ready din a4 document create rectangle in rich black using default swatch create rectangle in K only black by using cmyk sliders switch to pixel persona add pixel layer use brush tool sample color from rich black color is shown as rich black in color studio, but brush paints in K only black Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 The issue can be shown in less steps (picker not required) create new cmyk document add pixel layer use pixel persona use brush select rich black Brush creates K only pixels, not matching selected color Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreydevey Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 @NotMyFault Yes, that is true for the 100% K black and rich black swatches, but I want to make sure the example of the color picker failing to match other non-black colors in Pixel Persona is addressed as part of the issue as well. The black matching issue is only one part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 We may have multiple issues: Pixel Brush applying different color than set in color panel Color Picker not picking correct color Based on your report, I’m currently can only reproduce the first issue - occurs independent from color picker. I will check again tomorrow. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreydevey Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: We may have multiple issues: Pixel Brush applying different color than set in color panel Color Picker not picking correct color Based on your report, I’m currently can only reproduce the first issue - occurs independent from color picker. I will check again tomorrow. The issue seems to present itself more with high-saturation, low-luminosity colors based on my experience so far. Thanks for looking into it. Are you a Serif employee? It's not immediately obvious to me who is a user and who is an employee on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreydevey Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 I've attached another example below where I created several vector objects in different colors. The top row has varying hues, but are all 100% saturated with a luminosity setting of 10%. The bottom row maintains the same hue and saturation settings, but the luminosity for each has been set at 50%. As you can see, the problem appears to be isolated to the top row of objects. color-picker-bug-affinity-designer-2-ipad-ex4.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreydevey Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 UPDATE: I duplicated the top row of boxes and adjusted the saturation of each box to 50% to see if it had any affect on the results. It appears to be dependent on the luminosity, and independent of hue or saturation settings. color-picker-bug-affinity-designer-2-ipad-ex5.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 9 hours ago, jeffreydevey said: Are you a Serif employee? It's not immediately obvious to me who is a user and who is an employee on this forum No, regular user. Moderators have a red “Moderators” indication below their profile picture. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 The color picker is perfectly fine. The bug is only related to pixel brush (Designer and Photo, iPad only) The video shows a complex test case to allow to differentiate. 3 rectangles with different types of black (or any other color you want). a circular shape testing picker with vector shapes a polygon shape testing pixel layers, either using fill, or pixel brush in the video i cycle through the different ways, always picking from the reference black rectangles, and then using the 3 ways to fill the shape in the middle. To proof the picked color is used, i temporary switch to white or blue so we can be sure the black comes from the picker. To make the difference clearly visible, i use blend mode difference and a levels adjustment to amplify the delta. If the color of the shape exactly matches one of the blacks, it has acquired that color. Only the pixel FullSizeRender.MOV brush malfunctions. CMYK iPad brush color picker.afphoto Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 FullSizeRender.MOV In the video i repeated the process using fill tool twice, and forgot to show the case using brush. You can probably do it on your own. 😇 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 The issue can be triggered totally simple (in Photo, because we need channel panel) new cmyk document new pixel layer pixel brush choose cmyk slider in color studio. Slide m and y to e.g. 50% now move c slider between 0 and 100%, and paint a wide stroke now select c channel in channels panel to be visible again, now move c slider between 0 and 100%, and paint you can see than any cyan below 50% gets converted automatically into K. Only above 50% (or whatever the level is for magenta/yellow), cyan will be added. this bug is unrelated to color picker. It is a bug how cmyk colors get normallized to transform all grey by mixing cmy into K (only for pixel brush, not for vetcor shapes or fill tool). loukash 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreydevey Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 I see, that makes sense. So it's an issue with the pixel brush not accurately painting the color, regardless of whether the color picker was used to select the color. In any case, I hope they get it sorted out soon. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 10:58 AM, jeffreydevey said: It's not immediately obvious to me who is a user and who is an employee on this forum. Employees have Staff under there sig on left of posts (under icon), moderators are also identified. The rest are members🙂 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 6:58 PM, jeffreydevey said: It's not immediately obvious to me who is a user and who is an employee on this forum. A picture to go along with DM1's description. Note: the top screenshot is how you'd see them on a device with a large enough screen. The bottom is from a phone. jeffreydevey 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff NathanC Posted December 2, 2022 Staff Share Posted December 2, 2022 Hi @jeffreydevey, @NotMyFaultMany thanks for providing further detail, this issue is currently logged with the developers for resolution, I've added this report for consideration. jeffreydevey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Was this bug fixed? I cannot reproduce any more with 2.0.3.321 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 15 hours ago, NotMyFault said: Was this bug fixed? I cannot reproduce any more with 2.0.3.321 Following your recipe, it now tests ok on my iPad too. NotMyFault 1 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Bug still unfixed in 2.0.4. I found a much easier way to show bug: new document (sRGB) add pixel layer add rectangle with large stroke, no fill select both layers use color panel / color studio to set colors in various color modes results: RGB, HSL, LAB: ok CMYK: strong difference GREY: difference in shadows up to ca. 18%, then identical. While observation is correct an reproducible, this could be an unrelated new bug. i filed a new bug report for investigation. FullSizeRender.MOV DM1 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted June 5, 2023 Staff Share Posted June 5, 2023 The issue "[iPad] Paint Brush Tool using 100,100,100,100 CMYK values doesn't paint the same colour as a vector object using the same values" (REF: AFP-5738) has been fixed by the developers in build "2.1.0.1799". This fix is in the current customer release. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Bug still unfixed in V2.1 @Serif Info Bot crate ne rgb file add pixel layer add any shape (rectangle) group both together set color for group in CMYK mode-> different colors for both layers Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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