Affinity Photo 2 (iPad) - inpainting clones (and erases)

[keriAH]

I'm trying to figure out the inpainting tool on my iPad (& using Apple Pencil, if that's relevant).

 

I have a small test image - simple bit of clipart, not a complicated photo image. I duplicate it as a new layer. I then create a new pixel layer above that (now have 3 layers). Select the pixel (top) layer, with "Current Layer & Below" - Select the inpainting brush (at around 70 pixels wide). Accumulation & Opacity = 100% Flow & Hardness 100%

When I draw over a small area with the inpainting brush it paints with the red (removal) tone as expected. But when I lift the pencil I now see a duplicated, offset area of the underlying image, i.e., as though it is "cloning"!

I've tried setting it to just "Current Layer" but that doesn't make it work as expected.

What am I doing wrong?? (Thanks!)

[StudioJason]

Often times a “cloning” of something within the image is due to the overall area/size of the brush. It sometimes takes a bit of precision and more calculated applications of using the Inpainting Brush, rather than solely on larger swipes.

‘Sometimes can be finicky, taking finesse…other times easy and quick swipes.

Current Layer is usually suitable for .jpeg images alone. (No need to Duplicate your image, unless as an original backup copy).

‘Current Layer and Below is typically for when you have added a Blank Pixel Layer above the image, and want to use Inpainting Non-Destructively.

So for:

Destructive InPainting (will permanently alter image)- use Current Layer

Non Destructive InPainting- add a Pixel Layer, use Current Layer and Below on that Pixel Layer. (When you Hide the Pixel Layer, you will see nothing was removed from image).

[keriAH]

Thanks. I'll play around a bit more with this. It's very helpful to now understand the difference between using current layer vs. empty pixel layer. I was getting confused by the different steps I'd been finding elsewhere.

FWIW, I did understand that bit about "finicky" and "finesse" ... and thought I was using a small enough brush (and smallish strokes). I guess I need to try even smaller!!

Does it matter that I'm using a .png source?

And perhaps I'm using the wrong tool for the job. I have a clipart image and I'm trying to remove large sections of the image. Is there a better brush/tool to use for the initial (rough) removal and then, perhaps, come back with a different tool to tweak up the edges?

[StudioJason]

On 11/15/2022 at 11:44 AM, MEB said:

Hi @ThirtyFiveThousand, @StudioJason,
This is something we are already aware (logged with development). Should be fixed in an upcoming build. Thanks for your feedback.

 

24 minutes ago, keriAH said:

Thanks. I'll play around a bit more with this. It's very helpful to now understand the difference between using current layer vs. empty pixel layer. I was getting confused by the different steps I'd been finding elsewhere.

FWIW, I did understand that bit about "finicky" and "finesse" ... and thought I was using a small enough brush (and smallish strokes). I guess I need to try even smaller!!

Does it matter that I'm using a .png source?

And perhaps I'm using the wrong tool for the job. I have a clipart image and I'm trying to remove large sections of the image. Is there a better brush/tool to use for the initial (rough) removal and then, perhaps, come back with a different tool to tweak up the edges?

One of the great things about the Inpainting Brush is that the default one used is sufficient. (Other than altering size and such)

File type shouldn’t matter.

‘Large areas can depend on several things. Can use the selection Tools to Select an area, the simple use Flood Fill..a few times perhaps depending on what gets covered and detail.( If highly detailed it can be some work.) Or the Selection Tools alongside the Clone tool… or Smudge Tools within selected area, refinement after.

But I typically (depending on Image/Size/Detail etc) use the Inpainting Brush quite successfully. Just go in measured applications of it.

‘There used to be a way to use the Selection Tool > Edit > Inpainting….and it would do large areas within selected area, but cannot find anymore in V2.