Artsketch Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Maybe it would be a good move to ensure the OS compatibility of V1 for another 2 years? No bug fixes, no updates, no new features, just a patch if the operating systems require it in the next 2 years. Maybe nothing needs to be done at all. The customer gains security, time to get used to V2 and Serif has enough time to take care of V2 optimization and get lost confidence back for free. Poor Composition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Artsketch said: No bug fixes, no updates, no new features, just a patch if the operating systems require it in the next 2 years. I've heard from a "little birdie" that as far as the MacOS Ventura bugs with v1 is concerned, there's a certain possibility that it might happen. But no promise or even schedule was given, so no one should be holding their breath. In other words, the actual message for now is that Serif is apparently aware of such issues. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debraspicher Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Artsketch said: Maybe it would be a good move to ensure the OS compatibility of V1 for another 2 years? No bug fixes, no updates, no new features, just a patch if the operating systems require it in the next 2 years. Maybe nothing needs to be done at all. The customer gains security, time to get used to V2 and Serif has enough time to take care of V2 optimization and get lost confidence back for free. There would likely have to be bug fixes to reliably hold to this promise. Also, can you imagine the outcry if they actually took the time to add compatibility and didn't fix other bugs in the process... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Composition Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Artsketch said: Maybe it would be a good move to ensure the OS compatibility of V1 for another 2 years? No bug fixes, no updates, no new features, just a patch if the operating systems require it in the next 2 years. Maybe nothing needs to be done at all. The customer gains security, time to get used to V2 and Serif has enough time to take care of V2 optimization and get lost confidence back for free. I'd be happy with a year of knowing it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Poor Composition said: I'd be happy with a year of knowing it will work. Two years would be better to avoid class action lawsuits from users in the EU who bought V1 recently. Designer1234 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tia Lapis Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Artsketch said: Two years would be better to avoid class action lawsuits from users in the EU who bought V1 recently. On what basis? Quote Mac mini M1 / Ryzen 5600H & RTX3050 mobile / iPad Pro 1st - all with latest non beta release of Affinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Tia Lapis said: On what basis? Let's say somebody bought V1 for iPadOS this month and Apple is releasing iPadOS 16.3 next month preventing V1 to run. I'm not a lawyer but EU consumer rights are very strict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorVonDoom Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Artsketch said: Two years would be better to avoid class action lawsuits from users in the EU who bought V1 recently. In your dreams. mrqasq 1 Quote Marc ArtByMarc.me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myclay Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Artsketch said: Let's say somebody bought V1 for iPadOS this month and Apple is releasing iPadOS 16.3 next month preventing V1 to run. I'm not a lawyer but EU consumer rights are very strict. Interesting, do you perhaps have a news article for an example? Quote Sketchbook (with Affinity Suite usage) | timurariman.com | https://bansheebyte.artstation.com/store Windows 11 Pro - 22H2 | Ryzen 5800X3D | RTX 3090 - 24GB | 128GB | Main SSD with 1TB | SSD 4TB | PCIe SSD 256GB (configured as Scratch disk) | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, myclay said: Interesting, do you perhaps have a news article for an example? There is a new 2022 EU law for a 2 year warranty on digital goods and software, including software updates to keep them usable: https://blog.intigriti.com/2022/06/27/new-eu-law-changing-game-digital-goods-producers/ iuli, loukash, mrqasq and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myclay Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Thank you very much! This went completely under the radar for me and is really important to my future plannings.😳 Quote Sketchbook (with Affinity Suite usage) | timurariman.com | https://bansheebyte.artstation.com/store Windows 11 Pro - 22H2 | Ryzen 5800X3D | RTX 3090 - 24GB | 128GB | Main SSD with 1TB | SSD 4TB | PCIe SSD 256GB (configured as Scratch disk) | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Artsketch said: There is a new 2022 EU law for a 2 year warranty on digital goods and software, including software updates to keep them usable: https://blog.intigriti.com/2022/06/27/new-eu-law-changing-game-digital-goods-producers/ Interesting! Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aongus Collins Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Artsketch said: There is a new 2022 EU law for a 2 year warranty on digital goods and software, including software updates to keep them usable: https://blog.intigriti.com/2022/06/27/new-eu-law-changing-game-digital-goods-producers/ Very interesting! Thanks for sharing. I wonder what effect this will have on prices in the EU, where we already pay more than in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Artsketch said: Maybe it would be a good move to ensure the OS compatibility of V1 for another 2 years? No bug fixes, no updates, no new features, just a patch if the operating systems require it in the next 2 years. Maybe nothing needs to be done at all. The customer gains security, time to get used to V2 and Serif has enough time to take care of V2 optimization and get lost confidence back for free. We already have plans for v1 OS compatibility patches. I have no idea what time frames / duration are being considered, but we will try to ensure that v1 remains usable for some time. 000, cgidesign, loukash and 7 others 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: We already have plans for v1 OS compatibility patches. Thank you very much! That is very important giving some time to switch completely to V2, that I already bought. monzo and Mark Ingram 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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