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Hello,

I can't add a new masking layer per default as child layer to adjustment layers in V2.  My settings in the assistant in V2 are:  "add mask according to selection". It worked fine in V1 with the assistant setting "add mask as child layer" which does not exist anymore.

It's working fine at oixel layers and also the new new live masking layers (e.g. brightness range) become sublayers right away, but I don't mean those. The screenshot shows the problem which is with masks at adjustment layers (e.g. HSL). I have already restarted.

My system: Windows 11

Regards

Anja

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According to the Help, if you have a layer selected when adding a mask, then it should be nested as a child of that layer automatically when the option "according to selection" is set in Assistant Manager:

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If you've created a selection, any adjustment applied to it is added as a new adjustment layer above the currently selected layer or made a child adjustment layer of the selected layer instead. With no layer selected, the new adjustment layer is added to the top of the layer stack.

So something may not be working right, or at least not as documented.

Question, though: Why create a new Mask layer? Why not just paint directly on the HSL adjustment layer, using the built-in mask that all layers have?

Alternatively, of course, as a workaround if you want to use a separate mask layer, you can drag it onto the HSL adjustment's thumbnail. Also, a right-click on it and Mask to Below should work (though I haven't tried it in V2).

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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59 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

According to the Help, if you have a layer selected when adding a mask, then it should be nested as a child of that layer automatically when the option "according to selection" is set in Assistant Manager:

So something may not be working right, or at least not as documented.

Question, though: Why create a new Mask layer? Why not just paint directly on the HSL adjustment layer, using the built-in mask that all layers have?

Alternatively, of course, as a workaround if you want to use a separate mask layer, you can drag it onto the HSL adjustment's thumbnail. Also, a right-click on it and Mask to Below should work (though I haven't tried it in V2).

Why crate a new mask layer?  - I would like to be able to copy that layer.

Workaround with "Mask to below": That is the next problem - "mask to below" is not offered anymore.

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58 minutes ago, Atenni said:

Workaround with "Mask to below": That is the next problem - "mask to below" is not offered anymore.

Thanks. I hadn't noticed that. You can, though, drag it down onto the adjustment layer's thumbnail. So that's a workaround that should work.

I'm not sure whether all this is working correctly, but one of the Serif staff will know if another user doesn't. They'll get to this topic when they have time.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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On 11/13/2022 at 9:32 AM, Atenni said:

- "mask to below" is not offered anymore.

I saw it and used it (in Photo V2) just today. I can't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure it was in the (very long) context menu, when I right clicked on the layer that I wanted to turn into a mask. (I'm not on my computer now, so I can't say for sure where it is.) It then set the layer as a mask that was a child of the "layer below."

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11 hours ago, Grant Robertson said:

I saw it and used it (in Photo V2) just today. I can't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure it was in the (very long) context menu, when I right clicked on the layer that I wanted to turn into a mask. (I'm not on my computer now, so I can't say for sure where it is.) It then set the layer as a mask that was a child of the "layer below."

  @Grant Robertson You probably saw it with pixel layers.

It's working with pixels layers, but not with adjustment layers.

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56 minutes ago, footeg said:

It seems there are a lot more options to the mask in Photo V1 compared to V2. See attached,

AP V1.PNG

AP V2.PNG

@footeg These options only appear with pixel layers, but they are missing with adjustment layers.

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On 11/15/2022 at 11:33 AM, Atenni said:

  @Grant Robertson You probably saw it with pixel layers.

It's working with pixels layers, but not with adjustment layers.

I guess my next question is: Why would one want to "convert" an adjustment layer into (what I am calling) a "Child Mask," by choosing "Mask to Below"? It seems to me that the "Mask to Below" function would only be reasonable to apply to either a pixel or vector layer. If a layer is already a "Mask Layer" then one could just drag it onto the thumbnail of the layer to be masked. If said layer is an adjustment layer, I just can't understand why one would want to convert it to a mask. Unless, perhaps, one expects that to apply the mask part of the adjustment layer as the mask for the target layer. I guess, I could see how that might be useful. Especially given how difficult it is to get the mask out of said adjustment layers. 

I am new to Affinity software, so I may not be understanding how people have gotten used to using it in V1.

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4 hours ago, Grant Robertson said:

I guess my next question is: Why would one want to "convert" an adjustment layer into (what I am calling) a "Child Mask," by choosing "Mask to Below"?

You would not want to do that. I think you might want to convert a Pixel layer to a mask, and then mask it to the layer below. But apparently you can't do that to mask an adjustment layer. For that, you need to drag the mask to the layer, not use the context menu.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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Hi @Atenni,

Regarding your issue with adding mask child layers to adjustments adding to the top of the stack, this is an issue currently logged against V2 with the developers, I've added your report for consideration.

There is also an open issue regarding the missing right click options on adjustment layers, such as the 'Mask to below' option so I've also bumped it with this thread's report on this issue.

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