masks. what am i doing wrong?

[maxegb]

this is something i can't understand. In V1 if i clicked on a pixel layer and then clicked on a mask, the mask was a child (is this correct?) of that layer. In V2 if i click on a layer and then i click on a mask, a mask appears on top of that layer. I can then drag it to the pixel layer, but it is "unpleasant" and time consuming.

Is there something i need to change?

 

EDIT: i checked the behaviour of live filters layers and it's the same. i click on a gaussian blur (to say) and it becomes a new layer on top of the selected pixel layer, not a child of that layer.

[firstdefence]

That's not the experience I'm getting, in Affinity Photo v2, If I click on a layer and then click on the mask icon at the bottom of the layers panel and choose one of the types of mask options available, that mask becomes a child of the selected layer.

I'm on Mac Catalina

[maxegb]

i am using big sur

[R C-R]

Check what's showing in Preferences > Assistant. There should be a setting for adding mask layer to selection as either as a child or new layer. (This is the same as in V1 ... I think.)

[maxegb]

7 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Check what's showing in Preferences > Assistant. There should be a setting for adding mask layer to selection as either as a child or new layer. (This is the same as in V1 ... I think.)

got it, thanks!

 

 

 

 

[R C-R]

1 minute ago, maxegb said:

thanks, but i cannot find it. I'll keep looking, maybe it's somewhere else.

From your screenshot:

 

[maxegb]

yes, thanks, i read them more carefully. now it works as i was accustomed  to.  I honestly did not know that mask behaviour was an assistant action and not a "standard" feature.

[Atenni]

My settings are the same, but the problem still occurs. 

[maxegb]

27 minutes ago, Atenni said:

My settings are the same, but the problem still occurs. 

did you disable the assistant? if the assistant is off,it doesn't work

[Atenni]

5 hours ago, maxegb said:

did you disable the assistant? if the assistant is off,it doesn't work

@maxegbThe assistant is active.

[Hlouwby]

Same here, Assistant enabled, no change of options makes the mask a child layer. Having to drag it in every time is VERY UNPLEASANT. Dear Affinity team, please help if you are reading this.

[NathanC]

Hey @Atenni @Hlouwby apologies on the late reply,

Are you still experiencing problems with this as of the latest update (v2.0.4), if you are, could you perhaps provide a screenshot of what your assistant settings are set to?

So long as 'Adding mask layer to selection' is set to 'Add mask based on selection' in the assistant options it should automatically nest the layer based on the currently active selection in the layers panel.

[maxegb]

On 2/10/2023 at 12:24 PM, NathanC said:

Hey @Atenni @Hlouwby apologies on the late reply,

Are you still experiencing problems with this as of the latest update (v2.0.4), if you are, could you perhaps provide a screenshot of what your assistant settings are set to?

So long as 'Adding mask layer to selection' is set to 'Add mask based on selection' in the assistant options it should automatically nest the layer based on the currently active selection in the layers panel.

i checked : if i add a mask to a pixel layer, it gets nested. if i select an adjustment layer, it gets  on top as a new layer.

[R C-R]

37 minutes ago, maxegb said:

i checked : if i add a mask to a pixel layer, it gets nested. if i select an adjustment layer, it gets  on top as a new layer.

As previously mentioned, in the Assistant Manager, there are separate options for adding adjustment layers to selections & for adding mask layers to selections. It sounds like you have one set to add as a new layer & the other not.

[maxegb]

19 minutes ago, R C-R said:

As previously mentioned, in the Assistant Manager, there are separate options for adding adjustment layers to selections & for adding mask layers to selections. It sounds like you have one set to add as a new layer & the other not.

i don't want to add an adjustment layer to a selection. i want to add a mask to an adjustment layer. I think i cannot find it.

[Old Bruce]

6 minutes ago, maxegb said:

i don't want to add an adjustment layer to a selection. i want to add a mask to an adjustment layer. I think i cannot find it.

I just use the built in masks on the Adjustment and Live Filter layers.

[NotMyFault]

10 minutes ago, maxegb said:

i don't want to add an adjustment layer to a selection. i want to add a mask to an adjustment layer. I think i cannot find it.

Just do it

 

[Atenni]

On 2/10/2023 at 12:24 PM, NathanC said:

Hey @Atenni @Hlouwby apologies on the late reply,

Are you still experiencing problems with this as of the latest update (v2.0.4), if you are, could you perhaps provide a screenshot of what your assistant settings are set to?

So long as 'Adding mask layer to selection' is set to 'Add mask based on selection' in the assistant options it should automatically nest the layer based on the currently active selection in the layers panel.

@maxegb  No, it unfortunately does not. The bug is still there. A screesshot of my assistant ssettings is attached.  Mask layer settings are set to "Add mask layer according to selection", but the mask will be added on top of the adjustment layer. It will not be nested.

(I have all recent Affinity updates and Windows updates un my machine.)

[Lisbon]

1 hour ago, maxegb said:

i checked : if i add a mask to a pixel layer, it gets nested. if i select an adjustment layer, it gets  on top as a new layer.

Same with me in version 2.

No problems with A.Photo v1.

(A.Photo 2.04 MSI / Win 10)

[maxegb]

30 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I just use the built in masks on the Adjustment and Live Filter layers.

which is doable if you have only 1 adjustment layer. but if you have more than one (say a curve and an HSL for example) and you want to mask a part of them, it makes much more sense to add a mask on the first adjustment, paint the mask and then copy it to the next adj. layer. With version 1 it was possible to nest the mask directly. on version 2 it seems that if i select an adjustment and then i mask, the mask appears on the top. No big deal, but still...

[maxegb]

34 minutes ago, NotMyFault said:

Just do it

 

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Oh really, you can drag a mask? really?

 

would you like to come back on the topic when you actually read it, maybe?  :-D

[maxegb]

29 minutes ago, Atenni said:

@maxegb  No, it unfortunately does not. The bug is still there. A screesshot of my assistant ssettings is attached.  Mask layer settings are set to "Add mask layer according to selection", but the mask will be added on top of the adjustment layer. It will not be nested.

(I have all recent Affinity updates and Windows updates un my machine.)

@NathanC , i have been quoted and replied to instead of you.

[R C-R]

32 minutes ago, Atenni said:

Mask layer settings are set to "Add mask layer according to selection", but the mask will be added on top of the adjustment layer. It will not be nested.

Yes, the add mask to selection option does not work on adjustment layers, which is probably an unfixed bug inherited from V1, but as a workaround you can manually drag the mask layer onto the adjustment layer to nest it into it.

To apply a mask to several adjustment layers, instead of copying it to each of them, you can group the adjustment layers & add the mask to the group.

8 minutes ago, maxegb said:

Oh really, you can drag a mask? really?

I can in V2 on my Mac. are you saying that does not work for you?

[maxegb]

17 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Yes, the add mask to selection option does not work on adjustment layers, which is probably an unfixed bug inherited from V1, but as a workaround you can manually drag the mask layer onto the adjustment layer to nest it into it.

To apply a mask to several adjustment layers, instead of copying it to each of them, you can group the adjustment layers & add the mask to the group.

I can in V2 on my Mac. are you saying that does not work for you?

As far as i remember, you could add a mask to  an adjustment layer on V1 with no problems at all.

thanks for the grouping tip. i will try.

of course i can drag a mask. it was in my original post. i was just being sarcastic on the reply, i think it missed the point a little bit.

[R C-R]

3 minutes ago, maxegb said:

As far as i remember, you could add a mask to  an adjustment layer on V1 with no problems at all.

I still have AP V1 installed & the add mask to selection option (called 'add as child layer' in that version) does not work for adjustment layers there either, so in that respect both V1 & V2 behave the same, which is probably a bug.