CedarHouse Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 Affinity Photo ver 2. Lost the ability to change the units in the Unconstrained mode. Having the ability to adjust the units rather than being locked to pixels only, was working just fine from version 1.8 to 1.10. Need to crop to a particular print size using either inches or millimetres. do not want to use a calculator to convert pixels to inches or millimetres every time I use the crop tool in the Unconstrained mode. Quote
CedarHouse Posted November 11, 2022 Author Posted November 11, 2022 This issue last came up in June 6th 2019 and 9th June 2019 on the change to version 1.7. Quote
andersp5 Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 You are correct, this function was there in V1, missing in V2 but not quite in that if you select Resample from the mode drop down this enables you to change the units as before. Another Bug that needs attention with the crop tool. Quote
CedarHouse Posted November 11, 2022 Author Posted November 11, 2022 In my post for June and July 2019 and version 1.7 the original name for Resample was Absolute. The term Absolute was confusing and on suggestion it was changed to Resample. Also in July the Affinity Dev indicated that they would unlock the units box in the Unconstrained crop. Now in Version 2 it has been locked. On Version 2 Custom Ratio is locked and the values for pixels are not relevant to the image displayed. Quote
CedarHouse Posted November 12, 2022 Author Posted November 12, 2022 Had another look at this. Affinity photo version 2. Windows 10. Original image size from camera is 4950px by 3284px. Opened as RAW file in the Develop Module. Used Crop Tool and changed in Unconstrained the image size to 4200px by 3000px and repositioned the grid for effect and crop was completed. Cannot undo crop if one had made a mistake with the sizing. So pressed the develop button to go into the Photo Persona and image size is now 4950px by 3284px which is the original size of the camera image before I used the crop tool in the Develop Persona. In the Photo Persona the Unconstrained units are pixels only with the Units greyed out. The Resample keeps the original image size regardless of the size of the grid box. Unable to crop an image to a specific size or dimension. Other than using Document ---- Resize document to change pixel quantities in the Unconstrained to either inches or millimetres but is an unreliable method of sizing the crop. Quote
Ron P. Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 You are aware that once you Develop your RAW image the crop is not permanent. One new addition to AP V2 is non-destructible RAW development. In the context toolbar, to the right of Develop, Cancel, is Output. This is a drop-down menu. The default is Pixel, however there's 2 other options, Raw Layer-linked and Raw Layer-Embeded. However the issue with cropping in the Develop persona and not being able to undo that. Yes you can undo it. You must first develop the file. Make sure you have one of the two Raw Layer options selected, NOT PIXEL. This is the old way, which bakes the settings. In the Photo persona, select the Crop tool, then way over on the right end of the context toolbar of the crop tool, there's 2 checkboxes, Darken, Reveal. Check the box for Reveal. Now you can drag out the crop boundaries to get your original image size back. I do agree, removing the ability to change the units should not have been done. It was there in V1, in fact it's there in the last Retail version 1, 10.1.5134. For right now it is what it is, and is not worth complaining over the spilled milk. PC screens, be they Windows or Mac only understand Pixels, nothing more. So changing the units while cropping to feet, inches, miles, yards or whatever, is not going change what your pc shows you. Quote Affinity Photo 2.5..; Affinity Designer 2.5..; Affinity Publisher 2.5..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD
CedarHouse Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 I am a photographer not a designer. I want to crop for printing not for the pixels on the PC screen. The paper I use is maximum size of16inch by 12 inch. I want a precise crop to allow a white border around the image just as one would do when printing film images projected through an enlarger onto a baseboard with a masking frame adjusted to the paper size. In darkroom photography the masking frame allowed one to hold the paper in place for the desired "crop" of the projected image. See Bimage attached for explanation. i do not own a photo printer but send images to a Photolab and always 16 inch by 12 inch. I use a 16 inch by 12 inch white canvas and past the cropped image by copy and paste onto the canvas suitably centred on the canvas to create a white border with an instruction to the lab to print directly as presented. The two paper sizes I used for printing in the film days was 10inch by 8inch and 16 inch by 12 inch and had masking frames in both sizes both fixed and adjustable. These allowed crops of images projected from the enlarger that could use a part of the film image or most of the film image depending on the height adjustment of the enlarger head. See Aimage attached. I have viewed an article on the web site "Life after Photoshop" by Rod Lawton and he has done a short review of Affinity Photo Version 2. His personal comments in the last 2 or 3 paragraphs regarding Photo being allegedly more biased to the Design Community rather than Photographic community. this may or may not be entirely correct; but on nearly every major update the crop tool seems to be the one that keeps getting messed up. Quote
Staff Chris B Posted November 23, 2022 Staff Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 6:42 PM, Ron P. said: I do agree, removing the ability to change the units should not have been done. It was done to match macOS which AFAIK has never never allowed you to change the units for Unconstrained. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
KarlLegion Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 12:57 PM, CedarHouse said: I am a photographer not a designer. I want to crop for printing not for the pixels on the PC screen. I'm neither a photographer nor a designer, I'm a rubber stamp maker. I use APhoto to design or transform photos to stamps impression image. Similar to you, I start my projects with physical dimensions instead of pixel size because I need the images an exact fit on my stamp mount. The different is I never use crop tool, instead I set the canvas to the stamp size I need (e.g. 1" x 1.5") and bleeding with margin guide. Then resize the image which is usually larger than the canvas. Quite opposite to your workflow. I think crop tool is better for photo composition, focusing on the subject presentation instead of the photo size. It's just my opinion. Maybe I'm not knowledgeable enough. Please inspire me. 😉 Quote
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