Justin_Sijbolts Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Hey there! I was trying to make the Twitter logo with the new Shape Builder tool to kinda "learn" this tool. As a long-time Affinity user I'm not all that familiar with it of course. I quickly found that that in my opinion it's the easiest to work with it while using the Wireframe mode. However, it makes the image a square outline of (obviously). I'd like to make a suggestion where you can disable Wireframe affecting images. This way, it would be way easier to use Wireframe in such instances. GalaxySurfer 1 Quote Windows: Razer Blade 14 (2021) - RTX 3060, Ryzen 9, 16GB RAMmacOS: MacBook Pro 14" (2023) - M2 Max, 32GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Why not use a semi transparent fill on the vector objects? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.0 | Affinity Photo 2.4.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_Sijbolts Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Why not use a semi transparent fill on the vector objects? This is definitely possible - it's what I resorted to at the end. However, there's no outline then. I can easily add a stroke to it but for larger projects I think adding a stroke + shape with low opacity fill would cost more performance compared to using the Wireframe mode - even when they'd look quite same. Using Wireframe is also easier if you want to add colours to the shapes when working on a shape. If you also have a stroke then, it takes a bit more time to change the colour GalaxySurfer 1 Quote Windows: Razer Blade 14 (2021) - RTX 3060, Ryzen 9, 16GB RAMmacOS: MacBook Pro 14" (2023) - M2 Max, 32GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I'd love this too, having worked this way in Illustrator a lot. As Justin says it's different than working with a semi transparant fill, as seeing the outlines of many vector shapes is helpful. A semi transparant image with all vector shapes having no fill and just a stroke works but this can cause extra work and this is exactly what the wireframe mode should do right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ash Posted January 23, 2023 Staff Share Posted January 23, 2023 Have you tried using the new (in V2) X-Ray mode of wireframe view? That shows all objects as slightly transparent (including image / pixel layers) GalaxySurfer 1 Quote Managing Director Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) / Apple M1 Max / 64GB / macOS 12.0.1 iPad Pro 11-inch 3rd Gen / iPadOS 16.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) On 1/23/2023 at 10:31 AM, Ash said: Have you tried using the new (in V2) X-Ray mode of wireframe view? That shows all objects as slightly transparent (including image / pixel layers) Hi Ash, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately the X Ray vision doesn't show the underlying image, like it does in Illustrator. Here's a screenshot of my work in X Ray vision, with the underlying image layer turned on: This is the artboard in normal vector mode, with the vector layers of the landscape semi transparent as that's my workflow right now: Edited January 25, 2023 by GalaxySurfer Add current workflow "vector mode" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted January 25, 2023 Staff Share Posted January 25, 2023 Hi @GalaxySurfer, Can you please confirm for me, what colour space/profile is in use for your document? Quote Please Note: I am now out of the office until Tuesday 2nd April on annual leave. If you require urgent assistance, please create a new thread and a member of our team will be sure to assist asap. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dan C said: Hi @GalaxySurfer, Can you please confirm for me, what colour space/profile is in use for your document? Of course, and thanks for your help. Dan C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Hi NPM, That's so weird that it does work for you. I don't think I'm following you regarding the transperancy bg auto set. Switched off the "Transparant background" setting in the Colour settings, but no difference to me. EDIT: now trying to replicate your video in a new file, will update this message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Ok created a new file, and dropped in the same picture and tried X Ray view, and now it's working, both with transparant background and non-transparant background. No idea what caused it to work now. Checked the original file I'm working in, and can't see any differences apart from a "K only" button appearing in the toolbar on top after selecting the image, which doesn't show up in the new file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted January 25, 2023 Staff Share Posted January 25, 2023 Thanks for confirming that for me Our team have recently identified an issue whereby the X-ray view mode does not correctly display images when using a colour space other than RGB/8 - hence why this is working in the new document above, but the 'K-only' button is not shown, as this isn't applicable to an RGB document. This is logged with our development team and we hope for this to be resolved shortly - our apologies for any inconveniences in the meantime! Quote Please Note: I am now out of the office until Tuesday 2nd April on annual leave. If you require urgent assistance, please create a new thread and a member of our team will be sure to assist asap. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dan C said: Thanks for confirming that for me Our team have recently identified an issue whereby the X-ray view mode does not correctly display images when using a colour space other than RGB/8 - hence why this is working in the new document above, but the 'K-only' button is not shown, as this isn't applicable to an RGB document. This is logged with our development team and we hope for this to be resolved shortly - our apologies for any inconveniences in the meantime! Hi Dan, no problem and thanks for looking into this! Looking at the new document where the background image does show, I do agree with N.P.M. earlier in this thread that it would be nice to be able to modify the transparancy of the background image. Would this be a thing you & the team are considering? Not fully sure if this is opaque enough for me to do convenient tracing. Just my first experience and slight worry on this. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted January 25, 2023 Staff Share Posted January 25, 2023 Of course, no problem at all! 5 minutes ago, GalaxySurfer said: it would be nice to be able to modify the transparancy of the background image. Would this be a thing you & the team are considering? Unfortunately there's no option to change the transparency level for this mode currently, but I can certainly see how this could benefit your workflow - so I'll be sure to request this as a future improvement with our devs for you now GalaxySurfer 1 Quote Please Note: I am now out of the office until Tuesday 2nd April on annual leave. If you require urgent assistance, please create a new thread and a member of our team will be sure to assist asap. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxySurfer Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dan C said: Of course, no problem at all! Unfortunately there's no option to change the transparency level for this mode currently, but I can certainly see how this could benefit your workflow - so I'll be sure to request this as a future improvement with our devs for you now That's great Dan! Again awesome you and N.P.M. replied so quickly. Have a nice day 😃 Dan C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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