HMG Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I've been using Affinity Publisher as part of my role in a large mainly volunteer based organisation. We often share files for others to adapt and re-use. It's a big thing to ask all the volunteers to pay for the upgrade, it would be so much better if my colleagues could pay to upgrade as and when they can. But while V2 files can't be opened by the V1 app, we will either all have to stay on V1 or all move to V2. Is there any chance that there could be an option in V2 to save files in a V1 compatible format? This would make a huge difference. awakenedbyowls and Cealcrest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRoland Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 My experience with recording software tells me that we should also expect Affinity v2 software to open v1 files, but not vice versa. After all, there were new features added that cannot be interpreted by an app that does not have them. The best approach would be for you to use v1 for all shared projects where others have yet to update their Affinity software. Another consideration, in general, is that on Macs, some people would also have to buy a new computer to run v2 — unless they use a Mac OS patch to install Catalina or higher. Quote My BOOK (created with Publisher, Designer & Photo):Clearing a Path to Joy (And finding contentment along the way) My WEBSITE (also developed using Affinity apps):www.RolandK.ca — "Relentless adventures in self-expression" [Power Mac & Intel PC (HighSierra/Monterey/Win 10] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMG Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, TheOtherRoland said: My experience with recording software tells me that we should also expect Affinity v2 software to open v1 files, but not vice versa. After all, there were new features added that cannot be interpreted by an app that does not have them. The best approach would be for you to use v1 for all shared projects where others have yet to update their Affinity software. Another consideration, in general, is that on Macs, some people would also have to buy a new computer to run v2 — unless they use a Mac OS patch to install Catalina or higher. Urgh, I hadn't even thought about people needing to upgrade their computers. Thanks for mentioning that. eoaaeo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoaaeo Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I am with you. Unbelievable. V2 HAS TO BE OPENED IN V1 cause the 2.0 is still a beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRoland Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, eoaaeo said: I am with you. Unbelievable. V2 HAS TO BE OPENED IN V1 cause the 2.0 is still a beta. This cannot be true — except in a nightmare. Affinity would not sell a new software version that cannot open its own documents or requires an earlier version to open them. I didn't update yet, but whoever has, can you prove this statement wrong? eoaaeo 1 Quote My BOOK (created with Publisher, Designer & Photo):Clearing a Path to Joy (And finding contentment along the way) My WEBSITE (also developed using Affinity apps):www.RolandK.ca — "Relentless adventures in self-expression" [Power Mac & Intel PC (HighSierra/Monterey/Win 10] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted November 10, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 10, 2022 Version 1 cannot open Version 2 files. We will add a warning to Version 2 in the first patch that will suggest Save As if you need to keep the Version one file accessible to V1 for whatever reason. Obviously Version 2 can open Version 1 and Version 2 files Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoaaeo Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Thanks @Patrick Connor to give me the link to the Affinity V1 Guide link that I know so well after 3 years I am using. I am sorry but i'm really disappointed with this V2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRoland Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said: Version 1 cannot open Version 2 files. We will add a warning to Version 2 in the first patch that will suggest Save As if you need to keep the Version one file accessible to V1 for whatever reason. Obviously Version 2 can open Version 1 and Version 2 files Thank you for confirming. I would have assumed that the alert would have been part of the design — my audio software does that when I try to open an older file version. However, it's good to know that you guys are going to implement it. Users don't always pay attention to such details, especially hobbyists. Patrick Connor 1 Quote My BOOK (created with Publisher, Designer & Photo):Clearing a Path to Joy (And finding contentment along the way) My WEBSITE (also developed using Affinity apps):www.RolandK.ca — "Relentless adventures in self-expression" [Power Mac & Intel PC (HighSierra/Monterey/Win 10] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted November 10, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, eoaaeo said: Thanks @Patrick Connor to give me the link to the Affinity V1 Guide link that I know so well after 3 years I am using. I had completely forgotten that was in my footer (that appears at the bottom of every post I make on the forum!) thanks for the nudge. 5 minutes ago, eoaaeo said: I am sorry but i'm really disappointed with this V2. that's OK you are not alone debraspicher and moi.cool 2 Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoaaeo Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 @Patrick Connor, thanks to you to be present. I'm an italian architect 47m, I used since I was 16teen photoshop and Xpress, and for the vector macromedia freehand do you remember? I start to use AFFINITY since 3 years ago, totally joint to the Affinity Revolution, and I wanna tell you mine feeling with the new UI, and I found many user a bit disappointed. I know you are a fantastic team and you are doing a dream for all of us user and for that you have all my support and trust. I just buyed the V2 how I found out basically cause the V1 give me the experience to use it. Don't forget this feeling that all the user had with your software. I've seen too many company start good and then move on a different company policy. Remember your user as me that give you all the support. Thanks for answering Patrick Connor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMG Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Patrick Connor said: Version 1 cannot open Version 2 files. We will add a warning to Version 2 in the first patch that will suggest Save As if you need to keep the Version one file accessible to V1 for whatever reason. Obviously Version 2 can open Version 1 and Version 2 files To confirm, are you saying there is an option in the new V2 Publisher to save a file in a way that makes it accessible to V1 Publisher? If so that would be fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, HMG said: To confirm, are you saying there is an option in the new V2 Publisher to save a file in a way that makes it accessible to V1 Publisher? No there isn't. Patrick Connor 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.0 | Affinity Photo 2.4.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, HMG said: To confirm, are you saying there is an option in the new V2 Publisher to save a file in a way that makes it accessible to V1 Publisher? If so that would be fantastic! He was explaining that if you open a document created with V1 in Publisher 2, make some changes, then use SAVE AS, giving the revised document a slightly different name, you can close the new document and the V1 version that you opened in Publisher2 will still be available to open again in V1. Just tried it, and it works. Naturally, the changes you made in V2 will not be reflected in the original V1 document. Patrick Connor 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian23 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 14 hours ago, Patrick Connor said: Version 1 cannot open Version 2 files. We will add a warning to Version 2 in the first patch that will suggest Save As if you need to keep the Version one file accessible to V1 for whatever reason. Obviously Version 2 can open Version 1 and Version 2 files This is really terrible and I don't know another program which does this. Files without the new features should be compatible to V1, at the very least there should be a possibility to "save as V1". I like Affinity and purchased V2 right away, but I see that there are some problems (i.e. I had crash in Photo with healing brush or the luminace mask). Please also post some details about the file structure to make it possible to read a reasonable preview (PNG/JPG) from it. Apparently there is one embedded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tia Lapis Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 From my long experience as it admin: almost every program can only open older version of it's file format. How should it know the extensions from newer versions? PaoloT 1 Quote Mac mini M1 / Ryzen 5600H & RTX3050 mobile / iPad Pro 1st - all with latest non beta release of Affinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian23 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 DOCX and other modern XML based formats come to my mind. Even RTF was created in a way to be backwards compatible. You can use the oldest RTF reader and still open a RTF produced by the most modern MS Word. This works if extensions are marked so they are ignored. I assume Affinity V1 has something like this internally, otherwise the step from V1 to V1.9 would also have caused problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I would have thought there'd be something similar to IDML with InDesign, hopefully, something similar may be implemented in a future update, which would be super useful as I occasionally send fully editable Affinity docs to a client that has a windows machine that isn't capable of running V2 - until that time (if it comes?) copy pasting from V2 to a V1 doc is a decent workaround and retains layer names, colours and groups and wot-not, and just flattens unsupported raster stuff and converts unsupported vector stuff to curves. jmwellborn and PaoloT 2 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Julian23 said: otherwise the step from V1 to V1.9 would also have caused problems. As far as I remember, early versions of v1 also cannot open v1.9+ documents. 6 hours ago, Julian23 said: I don't know another program which does this. Oh, it took Schmadobe many years to make ID files exchangeable via IDML. Have you ever tried to bring content from ID CS5.5 to ID CS3? Been there done that. Luckily I have a buddy who at that time had all CS versions installed and who would run the docs through CS4 for me. Edited November 11, 2022 by loukash partial post that ended up as a duplicate; user error :) jmwellborn 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Julian23 said: This is really terrible and I don't know another program which does this. Most of the applications I have behave this way. mizwizzy, PaoloT and jmwellborn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Version 1.5 was not able to open 1.10 files, so it's something that has happened before. Best regards! jmwellborn 1 Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted November 11, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 11, 2022 This from the Managing Director eoaaeo and loukash 1 1 Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cealcrest Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Good to know! This will definitely impact my workflow. Quote 2019 MacBook Pro 16” | Affinity Designer 2 | Affinity Photo 2 | Affinity Publisher 2 2018 iPad Pro 12.9” | Apple Pencil 2 | Affinity Designer for iPad 2 | Affinity Photo for iPad 2 | Affinity Publisher for iPad 2 Years with Affinity: 5 ❤️ https://www.instagram.com/cealcrest/ FEATURE WISH LIST ✅ Vector Mesh Tool ✅ Shape Builder Tool 🥚True Vector Brushes 🥚Vector Pattern Fill 🥚Studio Link in All Apps APP WISH LIST ✅ Publisher 🥚2D Animation/Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoaaeo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 It's ok Copy and Paste for 1 page file. For mine 50 pages of Publisher become so stressful. PLS resolve the CRASH of version V1 and let me use that faster version. V1 is faster than V2 (that for me now remane in stand by) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, eoaaeo said: 50 pages of Publisher PDF export? Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eoaaeo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 @loukash yeah ok but.. I loose the original file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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