mpowell Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Hi. I already purchased Affinity Photo, Designer & Publisher awhile back... I was wondering why updates cost money even though I already purchased Affinity? kww 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpowell Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, mpowell said: Already purchased Affinity Photo, Designer & Publisher awhile back... Was wondering why updates cost money even though I already purchased Affinity? Which means updates are no longer free? kww 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 This is not an update. You get free updates for the lifetime of the version. A new version is an upgrade, and once you have purchased it, you will get free updates to it for the lifetime of that version. emmrecs01, PaulEC, kww and 1 other 3 1 Quote Ali 🙂 Hobby photographer. Running Affinity Suite V2 on Windows 11 17" HP Envy i7 (8th Gen) & Windows 11 MS Surface Go 3 alongside MS365 (Insider Beta Channel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpowell Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ali said: This is not an update. You get free updates for the lifetime of the version. A new version is an upgrade, and once you have purchased it, you will get free updates to it for the lifetime of that version. Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I'm on disability & it will take a very long time to save up for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just keep using V1 until you can afford it. Mind you, there's a big 40% off at the moment. kww and emmrecs01 1 1 Quote Ali 🙂 Hobby photographer. Running Affinity Suite V2 on Windows 11 17" HP Envy i7 (8th Gen) & Windows 11 MS Surface Go 3 alongside MS365 (Insider Beta Channel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpowell Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Ali said: Just keep using V1 until you can afford it. Mind you, there's a big 40% off at the moment. Cool, thanks. Will do. When I have enough, I will purchase V.2 in Microsoft Windows Store.It will be a while. Oh, will this also happen on every version "V. 3, V.4 etc.." in the future? kww 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaxx Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 In theory, yes, although keep in mind version 1 lasted for quite a few years now. I bought my Windows version back in 2016 or so and even back then it's been out for longer on MacOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kww Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) i find that a little weird and deceitful really, its labeled as "one-off purchase" in the price card and nowhere in the card does it specify for "this version as long as it lasts, all future versions will be a new price". So affinity will continue to update versions and support all previous versions until they see fit? Why would one update at all? FOMO? Affinity you were sort of a cool product i could see using in the company, but you gotta be more up front, no one i know that's using this currently, thinks its ok what you did here. Our once little group, was growing, but i don't think we'll end up supporting in the end. the fact that so many of us were supporting and were early adopters. ouch Edited November 15, 2022 by kww mispelling Rondo, emmrecs01, Chul and 2 others 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmrecs01 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 @kww Welcome to the Affinity forums, even if your first post is something of a rant. 😇 It has always been made clear by Serif that all releases of updates to version 1 would be free but that an upgrade to version 2 and, presumably eventually version 3, would require the user to buy again. There is nothing deceitful about this! Do you really think that Serif can afford to develop, extensively beta test and ultimately release new versions of their products, financed ONLY by the sale of whichever was the first version the user bought? Remember, the initial purchase prices of the version 1 apps was considered by many who post here as an extreme example of "excellent value for money"! Rondo, PaulEC, kww and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Win 10 Pro, i7 6700K, 32Gb RAM, NVidia GTX1660 Ti and Intel HD530 Graphics Long-time user of Serif products, chiefly PagePlus and PhotoPlus, but also WebPlus, CraftArtistProfessional and DrawPlus. Delighted to be using Affinity Designer, Photo, and now Publisher, version 1 and now version 2. iPad Pro (12.9") (iOS 17.4) running Affinity Photo and Designer version 1 and all three version 2 apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kww Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) @emmrecs01 shine your passive aggressive self. "Welcome to the Affinity forums, even if your first post is something of a rant." i don't get the sense of this as a welcome hahaha Its a forum there will be rants. but thanks for the laugh with your aggressive defense. As far as a rant, maybe count the use of bolds & italics, save that there are a couple of exclamation points thrown in for good measure in your reply. well done. If you are a moderator feel free to ban me for whatever reason you see fit. i don't see me using this forum much after this anyway. Cheers. Edited November 16, 2022 by kww Rondo, HoueK, emmrecs01 and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoueK Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 21 hours ago, emmrecs01 said: @kww Welcome to the Affinity forums, even if your first post is something of a rant. 😇 It has always been made clear by Serif that all releases of updates to version 1 would be free but that an upgrade to version 2 and, presumably eventually version 3, would require the user to buy again. There is nothing deceitful about this! Do you really think that Serif can afford to develop, extensively beta test and ultimately release new versions of their products, financed ONLY by the sale of whichever was the first version the user bought? Remember, the initial purchase prices of the version 1 apps was considered by many who post here as an extreme example of "excellent value for money"! I already wrote this in another thread. IMO Serif picked the worst case scenario for customers who bought Affinity Apps last year (I'm in it). Until the purchase of Affinity, I used Inkscape, then Gravit Designer. After testing Affinity, I decided to buy it, despite the lack of several functions known from other applications. The forum promised to add these features in the future, so I believed that I would see it. In addition, I encountered several bugs during use - there was also a response that work on fixing it was in progress. And what? They released V2 and blew off existing users. "Buy yourself a new version." This is not about money or the interpretation of what a perpetual license is. It's about customer loyalty. Ok, I bought V1 in December 2021. What about people who bought in the last few months? They paid more than half the price of the V2 version and were left with an underdeveloped program, with limited functionality and promises of adding new tools. I recommended Affinity to my friend and if it wasn't for his tardiness, he would have bought V1 a month ago and now I would feel bad about it. Why didn't existing customers receive an additional discount? I've seen Serif explain that they supposedly have a lot of distribution channels and are unable to verify a valid purchase. And the license key is not a confirmation of having a license and then the right to a discount? Such talk to get more money from customers. umut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpowell Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 Which means that it has annual subscriptions... I've noticed the date that I underlined in red. See Pic. emmrecs01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfee Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, mpowell said: Which means that it has annual subscriptions... I've noticed the date that I underlined in red. See Pic. How do you work out that its is an annual subscription? That underlined text it when the launch discount ends... nothing about annual subscription... emmrecs01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpowell Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 2:13 AM, Murfee said: How do you work out that its is an annual subscription? That underlined text it when the launch discount ends... nothing about annual subscription... I was saying that ~ I figure since Version 2 costed money after I purchased Version 1 awhile back, then I figure Version 3 would also cost money. That's why I figured that there's an annual subscription fee... (Version 2, Version 3, Version 4 ~ ETC.) umut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, mpowell said: That's why I figured that there's an annual subscription fee. Version 1 was released in 2015 or so. So version 2 was released about seven years later. Hardly 'annual". emmrecs01 and Chul 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monzo Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Version 1 was released in 2015 or so. So version 2 was released about seven years later. Hardly 'annual". And publisher was released three years ago. Hardly annual, but hardly ‘lifetime’, either. emmrecs01 and umut 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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