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Just now, ZombieRofl said:

Don't get me wrong a UI update is welcome, but nothing special, or 'BIG' like it was told us.

I suggest you first explore all of the new features before coming to conclusions.

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A little disappointed about Designer. I hoped more…

A lot of users asked for a shape builder tool. Never use it with Illustrator but we can do the same with the pathfinder. We spend maybe a little more time but we can achieve the result. 

A Blend shape tool would be more useful.

No vector pattern and no DXF export too.

One more thing : Only for Mac OS 10.15+. Not yet for me…

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Hi @ZombieRofl,
Thanks for your feedback. It's not just an UI update (for macOS/Win and iPadOS). There's quite a few new tools/features in all apps, improvements to existing tools/features, a large number of bug fixes, and the new Publisher for iPad. All these required quite a bit of work from a relatively small team. Who knows what the future will bring...

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Giving a proper evaluation within such a short time-frame is by all means questionable. I resume my verdict to a later date so that I can see for myself what V2 will do for me.

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All the usual bells and whistles and still NO RTL OR COMPLEX SCRIPT SUPPORT!!!

Just unbelievable! To be honest, this is bordering on being disrespectful! We've been asking for it since 2014! Is it THAT much of a technical issue?! Or is it THAT low on the list of priorities?! Either way, I (as I'm sure many others) feel utterly deflated by this release...

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4 minutes ago, Musaed said:

All the usual bells and whistles and still NO RTL OR COMPLEX SCRIPT SUPPORT!!!

Just unbelievable! To be honest, this is bordering on being disrespectful! We've been asking for it since 2014! Is it THAT much of a technical issue?! Or is it THAT low on the list of priorities?! Either way, I (as I'm sure many others) feel utterly deflated by this release...

The faux outrage is strong in this one. 

 

Marc

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4 minutes ago, Optische Ausrichtung said:

And, have they got the function now?

 

Yes.

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11 minutes ago, Musaed said:

Is it THAT much of a technical issue?!

I feel able to reply to this based on years of preparing Persian/Arabic texts. It is a technical issue as well as a resource issue. RTL cursive text is considerably more complex than LTR Latin text. I still see today RTL texts prepared in things like InDesign and Word with broken characteristics.

An example is below. The font is not broken, the text engine is.

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6 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

I feel able to reply to this based on years of preparing Persian/Arabic texts. It is a technical issue as well as a resource issue. RTL cursive text is considerably more complex than LTR Latin text. I still see today RTL texts prepared in things like InDesign and Word with broken characteristics.

An example is below. The font is not broken, the text engine is.

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Thanks for the reply. Yes I understand that it is demanding from a technical point of view, but (sheesh!) Affinity Designer has been out for eight years now! If free stuff like Inkscape and Scribus can support RTL and complex script why can't Affinity?? Personally, I'd like to know whether it is in the pipeline or not at all. For the time being, good ol' Inkscape will have to soldier on for me...

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8 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said:

I feel able to reply to this based on years of preparing Persian/Arabic texts. It is a technical issue as well as a resource issue. RTL cursive text is considerably more complex than LTR Latin text. I still see today RTL texts prepared in things like InDesign and Word with broken characteristics.

An example is below. The font is not broken, the text engine is.

image.png.2b2b8b4bf2df4624c4e6d90d3568a6c2.png

Read this: https://wolthera.info/2022/10/svg-text-layout-for-krita/  and you'll understand how difficult right to left text support really is...

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6 minutes ago, Musaed said:

Thanks for the reply. Yes I understand that it is demanding from a technical point of view, but (sheesh!) Affinity Designer has been out for eight years now! If free stuff like Inkscape and Scribus can support RTL and complex script why can't Affinity?? Personally, I'd like to know whether it is in the pipeline or not at all. For the time being, Inkscape will have to soldier on for me...

For longer RTL texts I use LibreOffice. Its Harfbuzz engine is better than it used to be, but still has issues with broken kashidas.  Simple RTL texts aligned to the right work well enough. For short snippets (even as long as 10 to 20 words) I use the glyph engine in APub and construct the words one glyph at a time, as shown above. It's slow to use, and what would take me about 1.x seconds to type instead takes a couple of minutes. But the result is acceptable.

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