Command-Z and circumflex accents

[Glyphs]

Hi, 

There's a bug that's been nagging me for some time. It happens like this: Open a new document, create a text field and enter some text with a circumflex accent, for example "azerty â azerty". And then, cancel everything you did. When I do this, the cancelling ends at the circumflex accent. Impossible to cancel anything written before it. Is there a way to go around this bug?

[walt.farrell]

If you do another Cmd+Z does it go back further?

[Glyphs]

5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

If you do another Cmd+Z does it go back further?

It never go any further than the accent. And I can tell you I did a lot of Cmd+Z

[walt.farrell]

Strange. I have no ideas, then. Sorry.

[Glyphs]

Can you reproduce the bug or does it work on your side? It's just a matter of typing a text like "azerty â azerty" in any text field and then try to cancel the whole text.

[carl123]

How are you typing the â character?

Is your system/keyboard non US/UK?

 

[Glyphs]

Yes, it's a French system. First I press the circumflex accent key, then the letter I want the accent on to have the letter with a circumflex accent. There's no bug when I cut and paste the words. It happens only when I'm typing.

[MikeTO]

I duplicated this and it's specific to macOS. There are two workarounds, one is to use Edit > Undo or the History Panel instead of Cmd+Z to undo. The other is to just press any key because you're stuck in the accent-creation step and then you'll be able to undo as much as you want.

I'm using Ventura, which OS are you using? I'm asking because I discovered a second bug at the same time and it seems both of these would have been reported many times but you say you've been experiencing it for a while.

Serif, here are the two bugs and a screen recording that shows both:

1. Undoing an accented character
   1. Create a text frame/artistic text object
   2. Type a word before typing the word that will contain the accent - this is to avoid auto capitalization of the word containing the accent
   3. Type a word with an accent such as resumé - type the é by pressing option+e to create the accent and then press e
   4. Press Cmd+Z for Undo - don't choose Edit > Undo or use the History panel - Cmd+Z will undo typing the e but not the accent - it appears to the user that they're stuck because pressing Cmd+Z again won't work but in reality you just need to cancel the accent which you can do by pressing any key. Note that choosing the menu command or using the History panel will work, this is just a problem with Cmd+Z
2. Cannot type an accented character in the first word of a paragraph with auto capitalization:
   1. Create a text frame/artistic text object
   2. Type a word with an accent such as resumé - the moment you press option+e to create the accent the auto capitalization kicks in and changes the r to an R, interrupting the creation of the accented character. The autocapitalization should not be allowed to happen when creating an accent.

 

 

[Glyphs]

2 hours ago, MikeTO said:

I duplicated this and it's specific to macOS. There are two workarounds, one is to use Edit > Undo or the History Panel instead of Cmd+Z to undo.

Thanks! Using Edit > Undo or the History Panel works!

3 hours ago, MikeTO said:

The other is to just press any key because you're stuck in the accent-creation step and then you'll be able to undo as much as you want.

Doesn't work, sorry. It does gets me back in text editing mode, but cancelling gets me back in the accent creation step.

3 hours ago, MikeTO said:

I'm using Ventura, which OS are you using? I'm asking because I discovered a second bug at the same time and it seems both of these would have been reported many times but you say you've been experiencing it for a while.

Ventura too, but the bug has been here since Monterey, I think. I've been noticing it since I've begun to write directly in Publisher. Before that, I only copied and pasted or imported my text in it.

I didn't know about the second bug.

Thanks again!

[thomaso]

FWIW, no such undo issues here in 10.14.6. Mojave, all options seem to undo (menu, cmd-z, del-key) – Also different: Auto-capitalisation is not activated / German keyboard / the OPT key doesn't create these chars but either I press the single ^ or ´ or ` keys first, or press hold a vowel to get this pop-up to chose from (via cursor-click or typing the number):

But strange: in my first trial with "azerty â azerty" I was not able to undo with cmd-z but got stuck at the ^ like you. Also odd, when pressing the single ^ or ´ I got the glyph with a yellow highlight, indicating it is waiting for a vowel. Both doesn't happen / occur again.

[NathanC]

Hi @Glyphs,

This problem has been logged previously with the developers, I've added your report for consideration. 🙂