OlgaOggi Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Hi, can you please help me to understand how to insert bitcoin (U+20BF) and Russian ruble (U+20BD) symbols to affinity designer text. It does not work neither on desktop nor on iPad. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums. Do you have a font installed that has those characters in it? If so, just select that font, and then use the Glyph Browser to insert the characters. Or (with that font selected), type U+20BF and then Alt+U (Windows) or Ctrl+U (Mac) or use the Text > Toggle Unicode menu item. Similarly for the ruble character. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlgaOggi Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums. Do you have a font installed that has those characters in it? If so, just select that font, and then use the Glyph Browser to insert the characters. Or (with that font selected), type U+20BF and then Alt+U (Windows) or Ctrl+U (Mac) or use the Text > Toggle Unicode menu item. Similarly for the ruble character. this is what I did a lot of times in different ways before questioning here. Did you tried to do it by yourself? It is important to know, because if it works on other's Mac/iPad, it means that there is something wrong with my settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I'm not sure what fonts have support for those symbols. Do you have one to suggest? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlgaOggi Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, N.P.M. said: Tried it with Arial on windows and when my caret is in the textframe I double clicked the ruble and bitcoin glyph to be inserted and it did. On Mac it does not work like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlgaOggi Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, N.P.M. said: Maybe a mac user can help you out with this do hope, that is why I am here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlgaOggi Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: I'm not sure what fonts have support for those symbols. Do you have one to suggest? I can insert different stupid staff from any font (here is arial) using unicode but for bitcoin I am getting last shape. As for ruble it is even worse - there is the symbol on a Russian keyboard and I can type it here - ₽, but not in Affinity designer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, N.P.M. said: double clicked the ruble and bitcoin glyph Your search shows "rub", which displays a different symbol to me. The closest I get after choosing "Currency Symbols": (so it appears to depend on the used version of Arial, respectively its existence in any font) > OlgaOggi 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I can copy/paste it on mac from wikipedia: ₽ … but pasted in APub in an Arial text frame it creates a rectangle. I don't currentcy 😉 know what font is used in my forum / browser window. OlgaOggi 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconoclast Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I tried it several times typing u+20bf (for Bitcoin sign) in Arial, but it didn't work the first times. Now after several tries, it suddenly works. Don't really know why. I changed in the meantime to my Verdana, that doesn't contain a Bitcoin symbol, but it worked with the Rubel sign. After that also the Arial showed the Bitcoin sign. Possibly a bug? I'm on Windows 10, by the way. Edit: Don't forget to type the Plus sign: "u+20bf" then "alt u" (without + and even without space). OlgaOggi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I think the fonts available on Mac OS do not have the two glyphs. On Windows OS the available fonts may well have the two glyphs. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On mac there are a bunch of hidden fonts in System/Library/Fonts (file name starts with . dot, thus they don't appear in APub's font list, and in other font menus of other apps, too). – Some of them have rubel & bitcoin symbols, (strange glyph name;), for instance: OlgaOggi 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlgaOggi Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 ohhh.... it becomes too complicated for me. How may I use these hidden fonts in Affinity? Finally I am about to give up and report this to developers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, OlgaOggi said: Finally I am about to give up and report this to developers Report what? That Apple uses system fonts, hidden on purpose? That it is different in Windows? That you don't find or purchase a font that contains the wanted glyphs? – Possibly a free Google font has them. OlgaOggi 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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