Bug: Text color changes on random sections and pages. Might not be a bug, but I can't figure it out.

[tacoforce157]

I added a page to my document and suddenly random pages have had the text color changed to a light grey. However, in the settings and font adjustments no change is actually noted. 

It's mostly on the right hand spreads 

Here it is on the left. There are spread that are completely unchanged as well. 

Creating a new text field seems to fix the problem, so has something to do with the master page and it's text box. 

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[Old Bruce]

3 hours ago, tacoforce157 said:

I added a page to my document and suddenly random pages have had the text color changed to a light grey. However, in the settings and font adjustments no change is actually noted. 

You have somehow moved the text frame below the Master/Parent page's background.

[PixelEngineer]

34 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

You have somehow moved the text frame below the Master/Parent page's background.

The text looks faded because the background graphic on "Master A"  has its blending mode set to overlay. 

[tacoforce157]

Oh thank you all so much, I was going crazy trying to figure out what was going on here. 

 

[PixelEngineer]

Not sure, but it seems you may have imported a document that had a Master document where the graphic was on top of the text. I was able to simulate a scenario that created similar results. This is just a guess though.

For this particular situation, (if you haven't done so already), I would suggest you right click the "Master A" document. Then with the pop up context menu select "Apply Master to Pages..."  > select "All Pages" or "Specified Pages" whatever your needs are and make certain that "Replace Existing" is checked and that Content is set to "Migrate".  After that everything should be good to go. 

 

 

[carl123]

3 hours ago, PixelEngineer said:

For this particular situation, (if you haven't done so already), I  would suggest you right click the "Master A" document. Then with the pop up context menu select "Apply Master to Pages..."  > select "All Pages" or "Specified Pages" whatever your needs are and make certain that "Replace Existing" is checked and that Content is set to "Migrate".  After that everything should be good to go. 

The document also contains a Master B page which (if it was attached to any page) would be removed following the above procedure.

 

So, an alternative method when your document has multiple Master pages is as follows...

1. Goto a page that has the left page showing "faded" text (e.g. Page 42)

2. In the Layers panel, right-click the Master A layer and select Edit Linked

3. Now, still in the Layers panel, select the Frame Text layer that is below the background.jpg layer and do Layer > Arrange > Move to Front

4. Now click the Finish button on the orange bar near the top of the screen

Repeat the above 4 steps for a page that has "faded" text on the right-hand page (e.g. Page 55)

 

 

[PixelEngineer]

23 hours ago, carl123 said:

The document also contains a Master B page which (if it was attached to any page) would be removed following the above proceder

I'm glad you mentioned that.

Point well taken.
A designer can get unexpected results if using a method not designed for a particular scenario. 

There are so many ways to approach this once you know how things work.

I also came up with another method BTW one of many solutions that I didn't post up:

1. Go to the Master pages panel and double click Master A document thumbnail
2. Select the text boxes: While holding down the shift key click the left text box then the right text box.
3. With both text boxes in their selected state navigate to the toolbar and click Move to Front
4. Check all of your work

I would bet that there are many people that would not have bothered trying that move (I almost didn't) because the hierarchy already looks correct in the layer panel when viewed from the Master page section and just move on. But as it turns out using this method will update all the linked documents live, fixing all of those hierarchy issues with the background.

Edit Update: I would say that carl123 method is easier to follow and less confusing since it gives the user a clearer view of what is going on in the layers panel. Therefore, I would recommend following that approach instead. 

 

 

 

 

[carl123]

10 hours ago, PixelEngineer said:

The method you mentioned is a good one that involves going to each individual page to make that fix. What if this happened to 50 pages in the document? 

That would be the case if you used Edit > Detached but Edit > Linked is designed so that if you make a change to the derived Master page then all other pages that use that Master page also has that change performed on them (as evident by the fact that the original Master page will now include those changes)

Which is what I see when I do the above. If you are not seeing that it would be interesting to know why our experiences are different.

I am on Windows  

[PixelEngineer]

4 hours ago, carl123 said:

That would be the case if you used Edit > Detached but Edit > Linked

Your are correct! Thanks for mentioning it. LOL I was using the unlinked method instead of the linked method. Followed your instructions again worked perfectly as described. 

FYI: I edited that line out previously posted to avoid confusion.