CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Hello People!!, I´m just starting in Affinity Designer. I hope you can help me. Is there a tool to calculate the bisector of an angle in a triangle? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Welcome to the forums @CreacionesOrigami I don’t think there is, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 its is not fully clear what you want to calculate: Angle bisector line bisector area bisector https://www.mathopenref.com/bisector.html Assuming you want the first: Only indirectly. Activate snapping. add a line (pen tool), and use snapping to match first line of triangle duplicate. use node tool to match one node to second line use transform tool to read out rotation angles of both, and calculate difference. set decimal digits to a large number (e.g. 6) for higher accuracy. there a numerous other possible ways. duplicate triangle. Set opacity to 50% activate move tool. set point of origin to intersection of lines who build angle rotate duplicate until both lines of angle overlap use transform panel to read out rotation. Or create vector shape like pie tool, position accordingly and adjust angle until it matches ps the most simple way is probably to use the rectangular shape, rotate the the head over the angle origin Roughly set angle adjust nodes until they math both lines use middle of base line (snapping) as starting point of dotted line Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 6 hours ago, NotMyFault said: its is not fully clear what you want to calculate: Angle bisector line bisector area bisector Too early here on the wet coast but.... Wouldn't line and area bisector be the same result? Two triangles with base of 4 units and height of 2 units will both be 4 square units in area. If I bisect base so I have base of 2 and (the same) height of 2 then the areas will be 2 square units. (B * H)/2 gives you the area of a triangle. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Old Bruce said: Wouldn't line and area bisector be the same result? Only in special cases like yours, not in general. use the example from OP, both will be totally different. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 This is what I was thinking of. Obviously the angles abd and dbc are not equal, they are not bisected. The areas of abd and dbc are equal as are the line lengths ad and dc. Two examples given. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 9 hours ago, GarryP said: Welcome to the forums @CreacionesOrigami I don’t think there is, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 8 hours ago, NotMyFault said: its is not fully clear what you want to calculate: Angle bisector line bisector area bisector https://www.mathopenref.com/bisector.html Assuming you want the first: Only indirectly. Activate snapping. add a line (pen tool), and use snapping to match first line of triangle duplicate. use node tool to match one node to second line use transform tool to read out rotation angles of both, and calculate difference. set decimal digits to a large number (e.g. 6) for higher accuracy. there a numerous other possible ways. duplicate triangle. Set opacity to 50% activate move tool. set point of origin to intersection of lines who build angle rotate duplicate until both lines of angle overlap use transform panel to read out rotation. Or create vector shape like pie tool, position accordingly and adjust angle until it matches ps the most simple way is probably to use the rectangular shape, rotate the the head over the angle origin Roughly set angle adjust nodes until they math both lines use middle of base line (snapping) as starting point of dotted line thanks i will try later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Old Bruce said: Too early here on the wet coast but.... Wouldn't line and area bisector be the same result? Two triangles with base of 4 units and height of 2 units will both be 4 square units in area. If I bisect base so I have base of 2 and (the same) height of 2 then the areas will be 2 square units. (B * H)/2 gives you the area of a triangle. i not so clear on my question. hi From Chile here. I need a tool to angle bisector, in one corner of the triangle to construct a dot line. Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: This is what I was thinking of. Obviously the angles abd and dbc are not equal, they are not bisected. The areas of abd and dbc are equal as are the line lengths ad and dc. Two examples given. thanks, but I need angle bisector, not area bisector. Thanks a lot. 1 hour ago, NotMyFault said: Only in special cases like yours, not in general. use the example from OP, both will be totally different. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 We have gone off on a different angle here. Yes, you cannot bisect an angle using any of the Affinity applications. Not without some fairly serious work, think back to geometry lessons in school using a compass and a straight edge. David in Яuislip, CreacionesOrigami and Alfred 1 2 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: We have gone off on a different angle here. I see what you did there, have a haha Alfred and Old Bruce 2 Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: I see what you did there, have a haha That was a cute trick, wasn’t it! David in Яuislip and Old Bruce 1 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Alfred said: That was a cute trick, wasn’t it! Good man, I was hoping you'd be watching Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 @CreacionesOrigami see ... Geogebra angle bisector Construct an angle bisector (vimeo) Measuring and Rulers <-- see the angle rulers Rulers - Back to school <-- the Affinity ruler assets ... etc. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: Good man, I was hoping you'd be watching I was indeed watching, so I’d only have missed it if I were somewhat obtuse. David in Яuislip and Old Bruce 2 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Alfred said: I was indeed watching, so I’d only have missed it if I were somewhat obtuse. Hmmm, there is no built in [appreciative groan emoticon] emoji in the forum software. Obtuse. You? Never! Me on the other hand... Alfred 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, Alfred said: I was indeed watching, so I’d only have missed it if I were somewhat obtuse. <groan> </groan> Alfred 1 Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Another creative solution: move angle origin in the center of quadratic canvas align one line to horizontal right add fill layer behind merge visible use equations set to polar set t=t*2 apply set blend range to make white half transparent the result shows the bisector of the angle (in the middle of both lines building the angle) Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 17 hours ago, CreacionesOrigami said: Hello People!!, I´m just starting in Affinity Designer. I hope you can help me. Is there a tool to calculate the bisector of an angle in a triangle? Thanks!! OK. I think this will explain better what i want to get, without to make every time the circles. I'm looking for a tool to construct the dot line over the angle bisector of a triangle corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, v_kyr said: @CreacionesOrigami see ... Geogebra angle bisector Construct an angle bisector (vimeo) Measuring and Rulers <-- see the angle rulers Rulers - Back to school <-- the Affinity ruler assets ... etc. Cool tools, thanks. I check for this rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, CreacionesOrigami said: OK. I think this will explain better what i want to get, without to make every time the circles. I'm looking for a tool to construct the dot line over the angle bisector of a triangle corner. To paraphrase GarryP from his first post. I don't think there is an easy or automatic way of doing this in any of the Affinity applications. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: Another creative solution: move angle origin in the center of quadratic canvas align one line to horizontal right add fill layer behind merge visible use equations set to polar set t=t*2 apply set blend range to make white half transparent the result shows the bisector of the angle (in the middle of both lines building the angle) thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreacionesOrigami Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Old Bruce said: To paraphrase GarryP from his first post. I don't think there is an easy or automatic way of doing this in any of the Affinity applications. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, CreacionesOrigami said: OK. I think this will explain better what i want to get, without to make every time the circles. I'm looking for a tool to construct the dot line over the angle bisector of a triangle corner. Because this silly little program has some capabilities 😜 (in this case rotating something 90º) you only need to draw one circle. Draw a circle with the center point at the angle you want to bisect. Connect the two crossing points with your dashed line. Rotate the line 90º around it's center point (with move tool by toggling the bounding box.... or with the node tool transform mode.... or with point transform tool) It's not automagic (like it probably should be), but since you need to draw the dashed line anyway it's really just one more shape. Not terrible (if you don't have to do a lot.... 🥴). Edit: Sorry, didn't leave anything punny. Just my attempt to unt-angle this thread. 😶 R C-R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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