vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Is there any option to cross-reference Figure (Table,photos) numbers in Publisher like InDesign? I have more than 100 figures inside my thesis document but I have no option to cross reference the text (figure no) inside a paragraph to the actual figure number as illustrated in page no 4 & 6 of the attached sample document . Please see if there's a feature alternatively, I could use for this. Or any other way to do it in publisher? The problem is shown in the video below.. ScreenRecorderProject23.mp4 The InDesign feature of the cross-reference in shown in the below video for your reference.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 sorry, I probably attached a wrong youtube tutorial with the post. Also attaching my publisher document , so that one can demonstrate to me how it can be done. thanks Thesis report - TOC - Figures - tables .afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 In your Figure, you currently seem to have an image and the image includes the text Figure 4. Instead: You can use text for the figure title (Figure 4. Hydrological Cycle), and then put the image below it. Group them if you need to keep them together. Use a specific Paragraph Text Style for that figure name and description, which will allow you to make a separate TOC for the figures. You can also assign an Anchor to the figure title. Then, in the body text, when you need to reference the figure, you can type See Figure 4, and make that text a hyperlink to the anchor you established at step 3. The Hyperlink ensures that if you move figure 4 someplace else the user can still find it easily. What is missing, though, is the ability to easily change the name of Figure 4. Say you move Figure 4 and put it after Figure 6. You now have figures in the order 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 4. You might want them to be in proper numerical order. The Bullets & Numbering support, if you use it, allows automatic renumbering of the figures. But it won't allow automatic renumbering of the references to them. (And, in any case, it is possible to have multiple references to the same figure.) So, if you move the figures around, you need to find the references to them and manually rename/renumber the text in the references to match the renumbered figures. vishalsignap 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 very well explained. thanks a lot. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: In your Figure, you currently seem to have an image and the image includes the text Figure 4. Instead: You can use text for the figure title (Figure 4. Hydrological Cycle), and then put the image below it. Group them if you need to keep them together. Use a specific Paragraph Text Style for that figure name and description, which will allow you to make a separate TOC for the figures. You can also assign an Anchor to the figure title. Then, in the body text, when you need to reference the figure, you can type See Figure 4, and make that text a hyperlink to the anchor you established at step 3. The Hyperlink ensures that if you move figure 4 someplace else the user can still find it easily. What is missing, though, is the ability to easily change the name of Figure 4. Say you move Figure 4 and put it after Figure 6. You now have figures in the order 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 4. You might want them to be in proper numerical order. The Bullets & Numbering support, if you use it, allows automatic renumbering of the figures. But it won't allow automatic renumbering of the references to them. (And, in any case, it is possible to have multiple references to the same figure.) So, if you move the figures around, you need to find the references to them and manually rename/renumber the text in the references to match the renumbered figures. Yes, I totally agree with you on your last point about having to renumber the reference text if actual figures move around in the body text. That's really a lot of hard work for some 100+ figures. Working with such cross-references is a breeze with InDesign that makes it powerful for document work along with other features like footnotes, running headers etc. Affinity Publisher is an incredibly powerful tool too, but I'm sure the creators have to include these documentation features along with scripting support to make it even more powerful and outweigh InDesign in all forms. One other feature that needs to be included in the publisher is the book document feature of Indesign. It's an incredibly powerful tool when working with multiple chapters of an extensive document file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, vishalsignap said: One other feature that needs to be included in the publisher is the book document feature of Indesign. It's an incredibly powerful tool when working with multiple chapters of an extensive document file. Serif have said that this feature is coming. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 @walt.farrellPlease ask Creators to include the beautiful cross-reference tool, footnotes, Book document among other documentation tools for the next release of Publisher. Also , plugin support for Zotero, Mendeley for Citation work. Can't wait to see these features embraced for better productivity of the users of Publisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: Serif have said that this feature is coming. Wow, I'm excitedly waiting it arrival !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 hey @walt.farrell, you said "Serif have said that this feature is coming". Which features are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, vishalsignap said: hey @walt.farrell, you said "Serif have said that this feature is coming". Which features are you referring to? The Book feature that you mentioned, which I quoted. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalsignap Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 10:17 PM, walt.farrell said: Serif have said that this feature is coming. OMG !! You have best delivered the BOOK FEATURE in Publisher 2.0 . ITS ROCKING !! Thanks a million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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