Table of Contents , Table of Figures & Table of Tables

[vishalsignap]

Hi folks,

I was creating a thesis report with Table of Contents , Table of Figures & Table of Tables.

After much struggle, I was able to work around the table of contents part.

However, for Table of Figures, it showed only 2 figures out of more than 100 figures in my document; the same for table of tables.

Can someone please help me resolve this at earliest as I have a deadline to submit the report very soon.

 

 

I've selected the right paragraph style and all that but still its not working.

Does anyone has an experience of working on table of figures and also ways to cross-reference figures as one can do it in indesign.

If anyone could kindly volunteer to guide me on my screen at your convenience, that will be a of great help. thanks

 

 

 

[GarryP]

You have posted this in the “Publisher beta on Windows” section of the forums which is only for issues relating to the latest beta version of Publisher on Windows and not the commercial version of the software.
Since there is no current beta version of the software I am guessing that you are using the commercial version of the software.
Assuming that is correct, a moderator may find this thread and move it to the correct section of the forums.

[vishalsignap]

5 minutes ago, GarryP said:

You have posted this in the “Publisher beta on Windows” section of the forums which is only for issues relating to the latest beta version of Publisher on Windows and not the commercial version of the software.
Since there is no current beta version of the software I am guessing that you are using the commercial version of the software.
Assuming that is correct, a moderator may find this thread and move it to the correct section of the forums.

where can I download the beta version, probably it has some bugs fixed about table of contents

 

[GarryP]

As I said above, there is no current beta version, the latest commercial version is the latest version.
Which version are you running?

[vishalsignap]

6 minutes ago, GarryP said:

As I said above, there is no current beta version, the latest commercial version is the latest version.
Which version are you running?

1.10.5.1342, guess it's the latest.

[walt.farrell]

If you think you have selected the right Text Styles, then perhaps your TOC is mis-positioned with respect to where those Text Styles are used. It is presumed that the TOC occurs before the items it references. If the TOC appears after the items, there's a setting in the TOC panel that you need to enable, something like "include entries before TOC".

Other than that, I have no idea. But merely showing us the TOC won't help. We would need to see the TOC panel, the page the TOC is on, the page the missing item is on, and something that shows the Text Style that is assigned to the missing item. Even better would be a sample .afpub document that has the problem, perhaps a cut-down version of your real file, so we could really see everything about the problem.

[vishalsignap]

27 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

If you think you have selected the right Text Styles, then perhaps your TOC is mis-positioned with respect to where those Text Styles are used. It is presumed that the TOC occurs before the items it references. If the TOC appears after the items, there's a setting in the TOC panel that you need to enable, something like "include entries before TOC".

Other than that, I have no idea. But merely showing us the TOC won't help. We would need to see the TOC panel, the page the TOC is on, the page the missing item is on, and something that shows the Text Style that is assigned to the missing item. Even better would be a sample .afpub document that has the problem, perhaps a cut-down version of your real file, so we could really see everything about the problem.

Yes sure. I'm attaching a cut-down version of my file , so that you could understand the issue properly at your end. Please help. Many thanks.

Thesis report - TOC - Figures - tables .afpub

[GarryP]

I think the problem has something to do with you pinning various parts of the document within other parts – images pinned in text frames which are also pinned within text frames, etc. etc.
Try unpinning things – doing the layout without pinning – and you should get it working again.

[vishalsignap]

Yes, actually I figured it out. It was because of paragraphs(for TOC) enclosed in groups . Once I ungrouped, things started working. But , think this shouldn't be the way, as I have to work with groups because of multiple nested objects.

Request Affinity to make the paragraphs(for TOC) to work even within groups.

 

Thanks

[vishalsignap]

Many thanks @GarryP. 

I need one more help . Can you please cross-reference a text say "Figure" to the numbered figure . its a cross-reference function in Indesign. I have 100+ images that needs to be cross-referenced for texts in paragraphs. How can One do it? please help using the same file I sent earlier.

[vishalsignap]

Also, I'm not able to update TOC paragraph style after working with tabspaces(1st image)

After doing changes in tabspaces and updating paragraph style and thereafter updating the TOC , it reverts back to original . How can one work around this?

[vishalsignap]

I must thank the Serif community as its the quickest in replying customers queries and difficulties. Great Work Serif!!

[walt.farrell]

47 minutes ago, vishalsignap said:

After doing changes in tabspaces and updating paragraph style and thereafter updating the TOC , it reverts back to original . How can one work around this?

Which paragraph text style did you update? You would need to update the text styles for the TOC, not the text styles for the original headings.

When you have the text cursor somewhere in the TOC text, those text styles will be visible in the Text Styles panel.

[vishalsignap]

This video explains my problem. I've been trying to update the TOC paragraph styles after doing changes to character and tabstops but its not saving those change and I end up doing changes again after every updation of TOC again. This could be very tedious as My thesis report has atleast 50+ lines in TOC. Please help !!

 

 

[Old Bruce]

I feel your frustration @vishalsignap.

The use of and editing of the ToC Paragraph and Character styles is unbelievably opaque. I am rather old school and I work by setting up some dummy text so it is the way I want. I actually need to see how the text looks. Then using that I build my Paragraph and Character styles.

I would love to set up a dummy ToC and make some styles for the ToC and just base the generated ToC styles off of the hand-rolled dummy I made. For the life of me I cannot get this way of working to work.

I have to generate the ToC and then try to edit the different levels of headings (Chapter, Illustrations and Sections for example) to match what I originally have with my Dummy text and its already made by me Paragraph and Character styles.

Overall headache inducing and the result is never what I want.

[vishalsignap]

@Old Brucethanks for replying . It was indeed a good reply but I'm sure, someone has a solution to my specific problems.

[walt.farrell]

20 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I would love to set up a dummy ToC and make some styles for the ToC and just base the generated ToC styles off of the hand-rolled dummy I made. For the life of me I cannot get this way of working to work.

I find it quite easy, personally:

1. Just make a few headings in the document at the different levels.
2. Then generate a TOC for them.
3. Then edit the generated TOC text styles to get them looking like I want.

Assuming that #3 is possible at all, then I'm done. If I can't get things to look like I want, then I need to change my ideas.

One must be able to figure out, of course, whether what one wants is in fact possible in Publisher. There is always the possibility that it isn't, and in that case only manual editing in the TOC will work.

@vishalsignap: I'm not sure why you keep having to redo your changes. I have just reproduced what I think i see in your video, and it all works fine for me using your sample file.

One suggestion: For the tab and leader dots, just use the TOC panel's Separator field. I set it to a tab, and get the expected right-aligned number and leader dots automatically.

[Old Bruce]

7 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Assuming that #3 is possible at all, then I'm done. If I can't get things to look like I want, then I need to change my ideas.

It is the possible bit that confounds me. I know it is possible to have Paragraph and Character styles the way I want them because I have made them for the dummy ToC. It is the getting the generated ToC to look the way I have it in the dummy text that drives me mad. 

Just to be clear I am not talking about anything particularly fancy here, it is all fairly bog standard looking stuff. Right aligned page numbers and a font family size and leading.

It could well be I am missing something obvious but I doubt it, the use and editing of ToC styles just seems broken.

[walt.farrell]

26 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

It could well be I am missing something obvious but I doubt it, the use and editing of ToC styles just seems broken.

Feel free to send me a Message and I'll try to help. Maybe you've found something broken, but on the other hand, maybe it is something simple, since I don't seem to have problems.

[vishalsignap]

Thanks, @walt.farrell

I'm still struggling , but will try and resolve. The TOC paragraph styles don't update , especially with changes to tabstops and character changes

[walt.farrell]

5 minutes ago, vishalsignap said:

The TOC paragraph styles don't update , especially with changes to tabstops and character changes

They did for me, and I think I did just what you were doing in the video, so that's odd.

[vishalsignap]

Lets close this post as the problem is resolved at my end now.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, vishalsignap said:

Lets close this post as the problem is resolved at my end now.

It would help others if you explained how you resolved the problem.

[Dan C]

8 minutes ago, R C-R said:

It would help others if you explained how you resolved the problem.

The OP reposted the issue above, but as a bug - where I found this is caused due to text frames in 'pinned' (Float/Inline) groups not being parsed by the TOC generator.

Moving these text frames outside of these pinned groups allows the TOC to parse the text and add an entry as expected.

This is logged as a bug with the developers to be fixed, as the app should be able to read the text within these groups

[vishalsignap]

I shall make a small video of the resolved issue very soon