Marius Buculei Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 does Affinity Publisher support Romanian language, by recognizing characters such as ă, î, ș, ț, â, Ă, Î, Ș, Ț, Â imported from a Microsoft Word text source? William Overington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Hi, @Marius Buculei and welcome to the forums. Yes, because Romanic languages are derived from Latin. However, dictionaries and hyphenation rules have to be added manually for different language stems. These can be downloaded from the LibreOffice repository on GitHub. https://github.com/LibreOffice/dictionaries. Snapseed 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Marius Buculei said: does Affinity Publisher support Romanian language, by recognizing characters such as ă, î, ș, ț, â, Ă, Î, Ș, Ț, Â imported from a Microsoft Word text source? Yes, as long as the font you choose supports Romanian. Some fonts are not localized for Romanian so be sure to check. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Buculei Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 Thanks for your answer. I imported (copy - paste, actually) a text from Word and every time I open the document I got the message below. What should I do? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Marius Buculei said: What should I do? Looks like you need to install the Times New Roman CE font, as apparently that Word document uses it and it's not installed as a system font on your machine. Marius Buculei 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Looks like you need to install the Times New Roman CE font, as apparently that Word document uses it and it's not installed as a system font on your machine. If you don’t already have Times New Roman CE and you don’t want to incur the expense of purchasing it, consider using the free font Doulos SIL instead. Marius Buculei 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 As I understand it Times New Roman CE is just a variation of Times New Roman, so isn't it easier to accept the substitution? At least, just try it and check that the required Romanian characters display correctly. (If everything is OK, save it, so that you don't keep getting the missing fonts message whenever you open it.) Marius Buculei 1 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Being a monolingual Anglophone I am not certain but it could be that Romanian has characters/glyphs that are not in the Times font, hence the CE suffix for Central Europe. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 8:24 PM, Marius Buculei said: does Affinity Publisher support Romanian language, by recognizing characters such as ă, î, ș, ț, â, Ă, Î, Ș, Ț, Â imported from a Microsoft Word text source? This is really two questions. In order to have Affinity Publisher DISPLAY those characters, two questions need to be answered as "Yes". Question 1. Will Affinity Publisher accept those characters, in the sense that the character codes are recognized and can be saved in a document? Answer. Yes. Question 2. Will Affinity Publisher display those characters correctly,and not as some shape such as a black rectangle or some similar? Answer. It will but if and only if the text is formatted using a font that contains the correct glyph (that is , the correct image) for each of those characters. I have carried out a test by copying the ten characters from your forum post and pasting them into a text frame in an Affinity Publisher document. They displayed in the Arial font. I formatted to 72 point and they look good. I then changed the font to Times New Roman, the version bundled with Windows 10 on my home computer, and it works. Coverage of accented characters in fonts has improved greatly over the years. Is the document from which you are importing an old document from around twenty years or so ago? Back then some companies charged a more money for fonts that contained glyphs for characters only used in languages from central Europe. William Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Buculei Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 Thank you very much for your extensive answer. The idea is to be able to import fairly new (last year) word files which contain the above mentioned characters and be able to edit them using the same type of characters. Which I did successfully so far. My only concern was the message coming up and its significance, as the final document (in Affinity Publisher) would be sent to printing and I was wondering if it'll have any effect. I use Arial, so from the comments I get that shouldn't be any issues. Thanks to all of you who helped me! All the best. William Overington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Are you sending as a PDF document? If so, I recommend that you choose to embed a subset of the font in the PDF document. As Arial is widely available, some people choose not to embed it in a PDF. However that is then relying on the printshop having EXACTLY the same font available. Best not to risk that the EXACT same font may not be available at the printshop. William Marius Buculei 1 Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Old Bruce said: Being a monolingual Anglophone I am not certain but it could be that Romanian has characters/glyphs that are not in the Times font, hence the CE suffix for Central Europe. I did try pasting the Romanian letters from the first post (ă, î, ș, ț, â, Ă, Î, Ș, Ț, Â ) into APub and set the font to Times New Roman. It looked right to me, hence the suggestion to try accepting the substitution and just see if it worked, rather than having to install any other fonts. Marius Buculei 1 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, PaulEC said: I did try pasting the Romanian letters from the first post (ă, î, ș, ț, â, Ă, Î, Ș, Ț, Â ) into APub and set the font to Times New Roman. It looked right to me, hence the suggestion to try accepting the substitution and just see if it worked, rather than having to install any other fonts. It looks OK to me, too, and I can’t claim to be hugely surprised. TNR has very wide coverage. See if you can spot the minuscule differences between Doulos SIL and Times New Roman: Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 To be honest, I can't see much difference, other than a slight difference in the shape of the diacritics! Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, PaulEC said: To be honest, I can't see much difference, other than a slight difference in the shape of the diacritics! The TNR vertical strokes seem slightly thinner to me. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamStanislav Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: The TNR vertical strokes seem slightly thinner to me. Yes, that is the main difference. I think it is a tragedy that decades ago Adobe chose Times as the default font in the PostScript, which led to myriads of poorly designed book texts. Times is a newspaper typeface. It was specifically designed for the use in newspaper columns, to allow Times of London to cram up more text on their front page. And it works well for that purpose because newspaper columns are much less wide than book pages, so they eye does not have to travel as far from left to right. In reading a book, however, the eye has to travel a longer distance, so the text uses wider faces, larger point size and more white space between the lines (or at least it did in the books set before Adobe made Times the default and Microsoft nerds followed suit without even understanding what they were doing). Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I like a Venetian font, with its sloping straight line on a lowercase letter e. Alas there are not many about. I consider that that upward slope can give a text an optimistic ambience. Fortunately a rather nice Venetian font, Goudita SF, was bundled with some of the old Serif Plus software programs, though alas it did not have a large character set, though it did include accented characters for some of the languages of Western Europe. So does anyone know of a free Venetian font with a wide range of accented characters please? William Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, William Overington said: So does anyone know of a free Venetian font with a wide range of accented characters please? No idea about coverage, but: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=free+venetian+fonts (or you could use other search engines, of course) William Overington 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: The TNR vertical strokes seem slightly thinner to me. I’m not seeing that here. walt.farrell 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderings Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 3:24 PM, Marius Buculei said: does Affinity Publisher support Romanian language, by recognizing characters such as ă, î, ș, ț, â, Ă, Î, Ș, Ț, Â imported from a Microsoft Word text source? No answer for you, but you can download a fully working demo and using the info sent by the other posters you can test and make sure it works for you. https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/publisher/?mc=AFFPPC01&gclid=Cj0KCQjwn4qWBhCvARIsAFNAMiiruAhoc7qA8BtaVAhqsTrzuIsrWq67cBtnjViUBXwjStH5HwmJcUUaApwvEALw_wcB Demo is at the bottom of the page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, wonderings said: Demo is at the bottom of the page Save yourself a lot of scrolling! https://store.serif.com/get/publisher/trial/macos https://store.serif.com/get/publisher/trial/windows Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, Alfred said: Save yourself a lot of scrolling! Your browser doesn't let you press End to get to the bottom of the page? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Your browser doesn't let you press End to get to the bottom of the page? Some browsers find that they are attached to keyboards with no end/home/page up/down keys. walt.farrell and William Overington 1 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs68tm Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 In my case, Times New Roman has all Romanian letters. I mainly use Affinity Photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Your browser doesn't let you press End to get to the bottom of the page? 1 hour ago, Old Bruce said: Some browsers find that they are attached to keyboards with no end/home/page up/down keys. What he said! Also, some browsers aren’t attached to physical keyboards at all, which means you’re stuck with whatever options are offered by your on-screen keyboard. walt.farrell 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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