Smart guides when alt-drag duplicating?

[AllAppsUser]

When I alt-drag an object to duplicate and move it in one seamless action, the smart guides don't kick in.

When I just drag (without touching the keyboard) they're behaving as I expect.

Is there a setting I've not found for this?

(Mac, can you alt-drag on a PC?)

[walt.farrell]

Alt+Drag is "duplicate and ignore Snapping". the Smart Guides are part of the Snapping function.

Try Ctrl+Drag (Windows) or Cmd+Drag (Mac) to duplicate with Snappingl

[R C-R]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Alt+Drag is "duplicate and ignore Snapping". the Smart Guides are part of the Snapping function.

@ProDesigner, note that with an object selected with the Move Tool the Status bar at the bottom of the workspace window indicates that "⌥" (the alt/option key) ignores snapping. It also mentions how using "⇧" (shift) & "⌘" (Command) affect what happens when dragging.

[Old Bruce]

2 hours ago, ProDesigner said:

When I alt-drag an object to duplicate and move it in one seamless action, the smart guides don't kick in.

Just let go of the alt key once the object is duplicated and the smart guides should now kick in. Works on Mac with the option key so I am assuming it will work on Windows too.

[R C-R]

3 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Just let go of the alt key once the object is duplicated and the smart guides should now kick in. Works on Mac with the option key so I am assuming it will work on Windows too.

Actually, it should snap if you just release the alt/option key while you are dragging out the duplicate, before you release the mouse button to place the duplicate. No need to do this after the duplicate is created.

[Old Bruce]

R C-R has added a much needed clarification. That is what I meant but didn't write.

[AllAppsUser]

Cool, thank you.

Should have thought of that because it occurs in another app (don't think it's affinity). Been a long day. Thank you.

[walt.farrell]

51 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Actually, it should snap if you just release the alt/option key while you are dragging out the duplicate, before you release the mouse button to place the duplicate. No need to do this after the duplicate is created.

Interesting. Thanks, @R C-R and @Old Bruce. I never tried releasing Alt while copying.

I may have assumed it wouldn't work, because (on Windows, at least) it doesn't work if you're copying using Ctrl. There, you can press/hold Ctrl and click to drag an object, and it duplicates. But if you release Ctrl it turns into a simple Move, rather than remaining a Copy.

I'm not sure I like Alt and Ctrl working differently in that situation.

[Old Bruce]

11 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I'm not sure I like Alt and Ctrl working differently in that situation.

I do like that I can decide to make a copy of what I am dragging simply by pressing the command key. The start location has the original and I am now dragging a copy. Then I decide I don't want to copy but just move the thing and I can let go of the command key and the original is now on the cursor being moved.