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It seems the layer transformation in Affinity Designer does not work for curves - only shapes. This from my perspectivce seems pretty hard to understand since rotating or mirroring a curve is basically the same as transforming a shape (basically take the bounding rechtangle and perform the transformation). I can not even enter mirroring or rotating values in the transformation panel for curves. Did I do something wrong? And how would you mirror a curve without starting to construct complex gridlines or similar to lock to?

Cheer, Timo

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Sorry, Timo, but I'm afraid I don't understand what "layer transformations" you mean. Can you provide more details, or a screenshot?

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Just now, walt.farrell said:

Sorry, Timo, but I'm afraid I don't understand what "layer transformations" you mean. Can you provide more details, or a screenshot?

If you select a curve layer, go to the layer menu>transformation all sub menus are disabled - unlike you select a shape. Same with the transformation panel with a curve layer active.

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Maybe I'm substantially doing something wrong - but I havent figured out what it could be .... sometimes you don't see the obvious.

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Thanks. For the Transform panel, make sure you have the Move Tool active. (Not at my computer at the moment, so can't try it myself, but that has caught me before.)

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Move Tool, not Pen Tool or Node Tool?

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Yep, that caused it ... I had the node tool active and that caused the issue - works fine with the move tool. Same for the transform panel as well as the layer menu entries. Hard to undestand why transformation is not available with a different tool since it is a global layer operation. But obviously my mistake.

Thx Walt!

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29 minutes ago, DarkClown said:

Hard to undestand why transformation is not available with a different tool since it is a global layer operation.

If you mean Transform Panel by the term "transformation", it is used in Node and Pen Tool to enter the exact position of the point. The dimensions W and H then lose their meaning at one point and are therefore disabled.

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15 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

If you mean Transform Panel by the term "transformation", it is used in Node and Pen Tool to enter the exact position of the point. The dimensions W and H then lose their meaning at one point and are therefore disabled.

That's true - but only if a point is selected. As long as you have the node tool active (even if the curve layer is selected) the transformation panel is not in use. Secondly: I was referring to the menu command layer>transformation>xxx. Even with node tool active this is not affected by the data input in the transformation panel so could as well perform e.g. a mirror layer transformation..

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