precision of Select > Same Fill Color

[Otto Manuel]

Hi,

 I have recently begun using the Select > Same Fill Color command in Affinity Designer with vector curve fills, and today ran across an issue which I assume may be a case of the colors that I am working with having too subtle a difference.

 The command is selecting elements where the RGB or HSL values are indeed different but very near to the same color. In other words the selection command selects more than just the same fill color. Is there an option to set the precision of the selection?

 Thank you!

[R C-R]

31 minutes ago, Otto Manuel said:

The command is selecting elements where the RGB or HSL values are indeed different but very near to the same color. In other words the selection command selects more than just the same fill color.

I cannot duplicate that in AD 1.10.5 on my Mac. Can you attach a sample file that shows this for you so we can test it ourselves? 

[Otto Manuel]

Here is a sample file.

I can replicate the issue over and over again. You may have to try a few times to replicate the issue.

It may or may not happen when you try. I have found that selecting some of the elements and using Select > Same > Fill Color works as expected, while selecting other elements causes the Select > Same > Fill Color to select both the individual curves as well as the groups they are nested in. When the groups are selected, making a change to the fill color results in all the elements in the groups adopting the color.

Thank you.

AD 1.1.05. 1342 Win x64

 

WEEDS SMALL 01B-EXP.afdesign

[Otto Manuel]

I think I figured it out.

My groups have colors assigned to the stroke and fill, which was at one point a convenience, but now the constituents of the groups have varied colors, how ever when I select a curve that shares the same color as is assigned to the groups the groups are selected.

I have not figured out anyway to clear the assignment of color on the groups without changing everything inside the nest. For example; deleting the colors of the stroke and fill on the group delets the colors of everything in the nest.

The only solution I can see is to ungroup each group and then group them again, which clears the color assignment of the group while leaving the nested elements undisturbed.

 

[R C-R]

14 minutes ago, Otto Manuel said:

It may or may not happen when you try.

I tried testing this about a dozen times & it does not seem to be happening for me. 

[Dan C]

10 hours ago, Otto Manuel said:

It may or may not happen when you try. I have found that selecting some of the elements and using Select > Same > Fill Color works as expected, while selecting other elements causes the Select > Same > Fill Color to select both the individual curves as well as the groups they are nested in. When the groups are selected, making a change to the fill color results in all the elements in the groups adopting the color.

Thanks for providing a sample file for me Otto!

9 hours ago, R C-R said:

I tried testing this about a dozen times & it does not seem to be happening for me. 

Thanks R C_R, I'm able to replicate this here - so it may be a Windows only issue. If you select the 3rd curve in group 'WEED 010' and use Select > Select Same > Fill Colour, are the group objects also selected?

10 hours ago, Otto Manuel said:

My groups have colors assigned to the stroke and fill, which was at one point a convenience, but now the constituents of the groups have varied colors, how ever when I select a curve that shares the same color as is assigned to the groups the groups are selected.

I agree that this is what's causing the group objects to be selected along with the layers - just to confirm did you manually add this fill the the group object yourself?

10 hours ago, Otto Manuel said:

I have not figured out anyway to clear the assignment of color on the groups without changing everything inside the nest. For example; deleting the colors of the stroke and fill on the group delets the colors of everything in the nest.

The only solution I can see is to ungroup each group and then group them again, which clears the color assignment of the group while leaving the nested elements undisturbed.

Unfortunately the only way I'm aware to achieve this is by creating a new group object - to keep your document tidy I would recommend creating a new group within your existing groups, and then ungrouping the original group that has the fill applied.

I hope this clears things up

[Otto Manuel]

Hi,

 Thank you @Dan Cfor the follow up comments and questions.

 I have ungrouped and re-grouped the groups which cleared the group color assignments and let me continue as I had hoped. Thank you!

Yes, I believe that at one point I had purposefully selected the group and assigned the colors. On other occasions I will use the group to conform a stroke size throughout the group layers. When I do this, a stroke color is assigned. It seems there are repercussions to using a group's stroke size, stroke color, and fill color that I only acknowledge later in a project.

One thing I have learned is that after the group has assignments to the parameters mentioned, I can still go to the individual curves and override the group assignment with specific choices, but the group parameter settings remain as evidence of the previous action even if they are no longer applicable to some of the nested layers. 

I think the circumstance that I caused, and which inspired this question, is related to that sort of sequence of events.

Thank you for the help. 

[R C-R]

6 hours ago, Dan C said:

Thanks R C_R, I'm able to replicate this here - so it may be a Windows only issue. If you select the 3rd curve in group 'WEED 010' and use Select > Select Same > Fill Colour, are the group objects also selected?

Yes, the group objects are selected, but when I expand any of them, I see that all the curves in each group with that same fill color are also selected.

At first, I assumed that was how it was designed to work, but now I agree that it is probably a bug.