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Hello,

The issue is when I export my files out of publisher which I work in the most - sometimes the pdf file will have a black outline around certain objects. I don't understand the problem or the fix for it. Sometimes I'll adjust export settings and it will work. Other times it doesn't work at all. So you'll see 2 files attached.

1st pic is the source file - and you can see everything looks fine so to speak - the flowers are the problem.

2nd pic shows what effect I have on the flowers. I just have the flowers filled with a color and I added some shadows to add depth. You can also see in the photo stroke is "none".

3rd pic is after the file was exported and you see a black outline :(

Can someone help me understand the issue so that I can properly export the file? Im in affinity publisher currently.

Things I tried

- Converting to curves, rasterize, flatten image (separately to see if any one change would fix it to see individual variables).

- Playing with the export settings in the "more" section and changed rasterize to "nothing", I tried Lanczos 3 separable & non separable, bicubic, bilinear, unchecking overprint black, unchecking honor spot colors, unchecking include layers (not all at once, I would uncheck one thing see if it worked and if it didn't I would re check it and try unchecking or changing something else).

Hopefully my explanation of the issue is clear enough.

Thank you for your time.

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The issue could be used by one or multiple factors:

  • layer fx on objects with partial transparency
  • having partial transparent edge pixels. Try to add a white (or color of background) backfill layer, so that all pixels are fully opaque
  • scaled objects by non-integer multiples: try to add a vector shape as mask on the scaled object, cutting off superfluous edge pixels.

can you upload the actual file?

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Yes, I didn't realize I could - thanks for asking.

Also your 2nd and 3rd bullet responses I would like some clarity as im still a bit of a novice with the software. I use it everyday but I don't know design jargon well and im still learning.

- How do you add a backfill layer? Would that be - I just duplicate a flower layer for example, make it white and put it behind each flower layer? If thats not what you mean please explain in layman's terms.

- And Im not sure about the vector shape advice either sorry. Can you explain in a more simplified layman terms?

Attached is the source file.

Thank you for helping me

 

Flowers Test File For Chat.afpub

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2 hours ago, a.arnold26 said:

Yes, I didn't realize I could - thanks for asking.

Also your 2nd and 3rd bullet responses I would like some clarity as im still a bit of a novice with the software. I use it everyday but I don't know design jargon well and im still learning.

- How do you add a backfill layer? Would that be - I just duplicate a flower layer for example, make it white and put it behind each flower layer? If thats not what you mean please explain in layman's terms.

- And Im not sure about the vector shape advice either sorry. Can you explain in a more simplified layman terms?

Attached is the source file.

Thank you for helping me

 

Flowers Test File For Chat.afpub 2.56 MB · 4 downloads

Thank you for uploading. 
Using the default PDF export settings “for print”, the pdf looks clean.

Layer FX could cause these issues, normally they must and will get rasterized. If you set to “rasterize nothing”, this would explain getting wrong results.

2 hours ago, a.arnold26 said:

- How do you add a backfill layer? Would that be - I just duplicate a flower layer for example, make it white and put it behind each flower layer? If thats not what you mean please explain in layman's terms.

In your file, the “curve” layer already creates a white background fill, so all is set.

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Posted

I was not able to reproduce yet. 
Could you provide screenshot of the following settings (which lead to wrong export):

  • export settings
  • export “more” settings
  • Preferences->performance

 

  • And the actual exported PDF file

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@a.arnold26

Try this, I've modified the blend range for the top left label and the pdf shows no gunge around the petals
Being lazy, I also tried grouping all of the similar Curve layers and applying the blend range to that; it worked but the pdf (Digital-High quality) file went from ~430kB to ~2.3MB so they'll need to be done separately

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Flowers Test File For Chat--.afpub

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Posted

Alright im back - to @NotMyFault I only put rasterize to "nothing" after it exported wrong to see if it would fix it. but I always start with the default export settings on my computer unless something goes wrong. I just tried exporting the file with defaults and It still came out wrong.

Maybe my defaults are wrong?

- Attached are the default export settings, performance settings and actual pdf.

Thank you for your time.

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Flowers Test File For Chat.pdf

Posted

@David in Яuislip I just realized what was different from my attempt with blend options (besides the .01 part) - I didn't select passthrough - but on mine there isn't an option to select passthrough unless I have to add it from the menu or something? see attachment.

 

Also im in affinity Publisher - is passthrough an option in design or photo perhaps?

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Posted
2 hours ago, a.arnold26 said:

I didn't select passthrough - but on mine there isn't an option to select passthrough unless I have to add it from the menu or something?

In David's screenshot, the group with the star in it is selected. In yours, the star itself is selected.

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Posted

No ones responded in a while, I figured out what most of my issue was from. My iMac that I work on is old and I have an old version of adobe reader on it. So out of curiosity I transferred my pdf file to my new MacBook Air M1 & for the most part the pdf file no longer had any outline issues. 

I really didn't know or think that could have have been the issue - the actual reader being out of date, but thank you for the initial help.

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