AP - new from clipboard with guides?

[colindun]

I often like to create a duplicate document to work on so I can ensure I don't accidentally edit an original and accidentally save it.

I use 'new from clipboard' but this doesn't copy the guides from the original document. Is there way to copy the guides across too? I know I can do a 'save as' but that's a bit of a faff.

[joe_l]

7 minutes ago, colindun said:

I know I can do a 'save as' but that's a bit of a faff.

Why don't you simply duplicate the document in Finder / Explorer? Even Save As does not take longer than New from Clipboard or am I wrong?

[walt.farrell]

Save As would be my choice. 

Open, Save As, and start working.

[colindun]

Yeah, I do that, thanks, but it is a bit of a faff ;0)

I really loved and miss the Photoshop 'duplicate' option which just allowed you to create a copy of the working document on screen so you could tinker, crop, etc, etc, without risking damage to the master. Much quicker and less prone to muddle than 'save as'.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, colindun said:

Much quicker and less prone to muddle than 'save as'.

End to end, how is it quicker? Doesn't the duplicate have to be saved somewhere eventually? With Save as that just has to be done first but so what?

[Pšenda]

15 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Doesn't the duplicate have to be saved somewhere eventually?

They don't have to. It will only be saved if the user decides that previously created attempts are worth saving. Otherwise it will simply be deleted (closed without saving).

 

2 hours ago, joe_l said:

Even Save As does not take longer than New from Clipboard or am I wrong?

Lasting longer - you must enter a new name. And if you are not satisfied with the attempt, you must delete the newly created file so that you do not fill the disk with attempts.

 

2 hours ago, colindun said:

I really loved and miss the Photoshop 'duplicate' option which just allowed you to create a copy of the working document on screen

So why not require a similar function - which, by the way, has been here many times before, than to require some half-way copying via the clipboard. Next time, in addition to the guides, someone will want a grid, then symbols, then ....

For example:

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Pšenda

[R C-R]

2 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

They don't have to. It will only be saved if the user decides that previously created attempts are worth saving. Otherwise it will simply be deleted (closed without saving).

Can't you just do the same with the original file if you do not want to save any of the changes you make to it?

[Pšenda]

6 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Can't you just do the same with the original file if you do not want to save any of the changes you make to it?

Just read what the OP writes - the first sentence: "I often like to create a duplicate document to work on so I can ensure I don't accidentally edit an original and accidentally save it.".

[R C-R]

12 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

Just read what the OP writes - the first sentence: "I often like to create a duplicate document to work on so I can ensure I don't accidentally edit an original and accidentally save it.".

OK, I get that, but I still think either using Save as or making a duplicate in Finder/Explorer is the best way to go because it does save a new file. I would rather delete the dup later on if I decide I do not want to save any of the work I have done to it rather than risk not saving it if I do.

Wherever possible, I always feel better frequently saving any file I am working on, even if I am reasonably sure I won't keep the file for long.

But maybe that is just me.

[EmT]

@colindun

As well as the other advice given, you could try checking 'Save History with Document'. This would increase the file size, but it does allow you to roll back to a previous state in the case of accidentally overwriting work.  

[carl123]

Or just create snapshots