Starting Capital letter overhanging

[cre8tivetoy]

Can someone please help me with a problem?  I do not know the technical word for how the first letter of a sentence is displayed in my screen shot below, but I don't want/like it displaying like it.  I want a clean line of text, justified to the left.

As I do not know the technical term, I do not know what to adjust.

Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

 

[NathanC]

Hi @cre8tivetoy,

You can insert a First Line inset (Highlighted Below) in the Paragraph panel which will affect the first character in each paragraph and then incorporate this into a paragraph style if required.

[cre8tivetoy]

Hello Nathan, thank you very much for your quick reply and stopping me going mad.

It thought it must be simple, but had no idea what to ask/use.  Thanks again.

[Alfred]

Please note that Nathan’s suggestion will result in a gap to the left of many letters (e.g. ‘M’ in his screenshot). To cater for particular cases such as ‘W’ and ‘A’ overhanging the margin, use the Optical Alignment settings in the Character panel.

[cre8tivetoy]

Hello Alfred, thank you also for your reply.

I realise that I need to set-up a new 'Master' document just to make sure everything is working correctly for me in the future.  At least I now understand two more functions in Publisher and how I can adjust text to suit my designs.  Thanks to both of you.

[kenmcd]

2 hours ago, cre8tivetoy said:

As I do not know the technical term, I do not know what to adjust.

It appears that font has some rather large negative left side bearings on those characters.
I am curious what font it is. ???

[Alfred]

21 minutes ago, LibreTraining said:

It appears that font has some rather large negative left side bearings on those characters.

In the OP’s screenshot the W and A are only overhanging the left margin, they’re not colliding with the opening quotes later in the text, so it seems unlikely that the overhang is caused by negative side bearings.

[thomaso]

31 minutes ago, LibreTraining said:

It appears that font has some rather large negative left side bearings on those characters.

Interesting, Thanks! Good to know.
https://ilovetypography.com/typography-terms/typography-terms-s/

10 minutes ago, Alfred said:

In the OP’s screenshot the W and A are only overhanging the left margin, they’re not colliding with the opening quotes later in the text, so it seems unlikely that the overhang is caused by negative side bearings.

It seems to possibly depend. See above for Gill Sans. It has various values set depending on the characters position within a text. For A and W the negative value is obviously larger after a space compared to other characters and apparently = 0 at the beginning of a line.

@LibreTraining, what is the difference between sidebearing and kerning?

[Alfred]

1 minute ago, thomaso said:

@LibreTraining, what is the difference between sidebearing and kerning?

I’m not @LibreTraining (obviously!) but sidebearings are built into the individual glyph designs. Kerning values, on the other hand, apply to pairs of adjacent glyphs.

[kenmcd]

1 hour ago, Alfred said:

In the OP’s screenshot the W and A are only overhanging the left margin, they’re not colliding with the opening quotes later in the text, so it seems unlikely that the overhang is caused by negative side bearings.

Hanging out of the margins is typically caused by negative side bearings.
(there is another post here about the Times New Roman W hanging out of the right margin)
The quotes later probably do have kerning pairs applied.
If we know the font used it would be easy to check these.

TNR was created when Word did not support kerning. So it has a lot of extreme side bearings to work around this, but this leads to some oddities - like hanging way out of the margins.
Newer fonts are usually not going to have these old legacy oddities in construction.

So that is why I would really like to take a look at the font.

[kenmcd]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

For A and W the negative value is obviously larger after a space compared to other characters and apparently = 0 at the beginning of a line.

We were just discussing the odd kerning in the old Gill Sans in the other thread yesterday.
In that case the odd spacing is caused by negative kerning between the space character and the capital A, W, & T.
That negative kerning is why the spaces appear to vary between the sentences.
The space+R looks OK because it has no kerning adjustment on that pair.
The A and W look OK at the left margin because they have "normal" left side bearings.