APhoto vs. APub - same HEX color looks different ?

[cgidesign]

Publisher and Photo 1.10.5 on Windows.

Same color looks different.

In both apps a doc in mode CMYK ISO Coated was created. Color preferences, document color mode and set color in color panel are the same. Both apps are displayed on the same monitor. In both apps the same hex color is used.

The colors should look the same in that case, but they don't. User error of bug ?

cmyk.afphoto cmyk.afpub

[firstdefence]

They look different because they are different.

in Publisher the colour is...

In Photo the colour is...

[cgidesign]

Yes, but in both documents the same color hex code, same working color space, same ICC profile was used. Why does publisher make different cmyk values than Photo out of that? Both should make the same cmyk values or am I missunderstanding this?

[Patrick Connor]

What Hex values?

[Pšenda]

56 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:

What Hex values?

Red arrows in OP screenshot. 

[Pšenda]

3 hours ago, cgidesign said:

but in both documents the same color hex code

Both rectangle is selected before HEX code enter? 

[walt.farrell]

5 hours ago, cgidesign said:

Yes, but in both documents the same color hex code, same working color space, same ICC profile was used. Why does publisher make different cmyk values than Photo out of that? Both should make the same cmyk values or am I missunderstanding this?

As you do not have any layer selected in either application, the Color panel is not showing you anything meaningful in your screenshot. You need to select the rectangle in each application. Then the Color panel is meaningful.

[User_783649]

The most interesting part of this is that those little layer previews in Layer panel are of the same color for each app. When layers itself on canvas have different color but indicate they have the same RGB Hex value.

@cgidesign I just created a new AP document in CMYK/8 mode and manually entered that #E6E5DA for rectangle color. It showed me the same color on canvas as in your Apub doc (correct one, not that bright and saturated like in your AP doc). Could you please tell us how exactly are you setting the color — by providing CMYK values or by entering RGB Hex values?

If I simply copy your layer into a new CMYK/8 document I also get correct color.

 

[cgidesign]

Thanks for all the input.

I found out what causes the difference: Relative Colorimetric vs. Absolute Colorimetric.

I wrote "the color presets were identical". This was wrong. They were different regarding the rendering intent.

[Pšenda]

28 minutes ago, cgidesign said:

They were different regarding the rendering intent.

This corresponds to Alex's post - thumbnail on the Layer panel is identical, because here it is rendered using the OS without the ICC profile application, etc., while the canvas is rendered with the application of all the above settings, and therefore the colors are different.

15 hours ago, Alex M said:

The most interesting part of this is that those little layer previews in Layer panel are of the same color for each app. When layers itself on canvas have different color

[cgidesign]

While this topic is solved now, may I ask you to have a look into another thread as well? The issue there drives me nuts because I don't even have a clue what's going on. I am trying to simulate an ISO newspaper print with the softproof function but don't even get close to what it should look like. Either I am totally missunderstanding the softproof adjustment in APh, or there is something really wrong with it.