Studio Dingli Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) Once you make an adjustment layer as a child layer you can NEITHER RE-EDIT NOR DELETE this child layer, and double-click doesn't even open the child adjustment layer. You can only destroy/delete the whole parent-child group. This forces you to keep backups of layers in pre-adjustment condition, if after destroy/delete you need to edit another copy of the parent layer. You must drag the child out of the parent, edit it (you get non-destructive global changes) then replace this adjustment layer back as a child. Please see the work around I do, described below. Edited April 19, 2022 by Studio Dingli Redefine procedure Quote
Studio Dingli Posted April 19, 2022 Author Posted April 19, 2022 Thanks Hens for replying to my post. Please see my other comment where I discovered a work around. The snapshot shows a Split Toning adjustment as a child layer (white icon) of a parent Curve layer. I can neither edit the Split Toning child or delete it, if I close it and wish to return to it a second time. I tried many times. Quote
Studio Dingli Posted April 19, 2022 Author Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) I am in Affinity DESIGNER and not using Photo for this process. PROBLEM: (1) Placing an adjustment layer just above a "Parent " layer to be modified, affects the parent AND ALL layers below. You can edit/delete this adjustment layer any time. But what if you only want to affect just one layer ? (2 )If you select the parent layer and place an adjustment layer as a child layer, this will affect only that parent, BUT gives you a Once Only edit adjustment window. Once the window is closed you can NO MORE edit or delete the CHILD adjustment layer. SOLUTION: (3) Let's say you have a child layer inside a parent layer group and want to edit/delete this adjustment child. (4). Close the group to one line. (5) Drag the adjustment icon (it's a layer) to just above the parent layer as in (1). Do edits on your parent as in (1) and Ignore global changes, its a non-destructive operation. In this position, you can also delete the child layer completely. Once satisfied with your newly adjusted parent, drag the adjustment layer from above the parent, back to child position (2,3) to affect only the parent. I found help in the Affinity manual but took a while to interpret what I did here. See Tip No (2), (3) See Tip No (4). See Tip No (1 and 5) Edited April 19, 2022 by Studio Dingli Quote
walt.farrell Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 @Studio Dingli: To edit the settings of an Adjustment layer or Live Filter layer, just double-click on the layer thumbnail in the Layers panel. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
R C-R Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 6 hours ago, walt.farrell said: @Studio Dingli: To edit the settings of an Adjustment layer or Live Filter layer, just double-click on the layer thumbnail in the Layers panel. See also the last several posts in this topic where @Studio Dingli repeated the same post as above. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Studio Dingli Posted April 19, 2022 Author Posted April 19, 2022 Thank you. I know I can double click a child layer nested under a parent layer and can edit once. Thereafter subsequent double-clicks can't re-edit/delete again the child layer in the child position. I have to drag the child layer to above the parent layer. This temporarily changes all layers under it. So then, after edit, I have to drag it back to child layer position inside the parent to only affect the parent. Just saying its a nuisance when dealing with multiple child layers. Why cant Affinity allow direct edit/delete of child layers in situ ? Quote
R C-R Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Studio Dingli said: Thereafter subsequent double-clicks can't re-edit/delete again the child layer in the child position. What specifically are you double-clicking on, the parent layer or the nested adjustment layer? Have you tried doing it with the file I uploaded in the other topic? can you post a video of what you are doing, or just a shot of the Layers panel only with the child layer selected? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
walt.farrell Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Studio Dingli said: Thereafter subsequent double-clicks can't re-edit/delete again the child layer in the child position. I have had no problem editing multiple times, and I don't recall seeing any complaints about that. Can you provide a screenshot at the time that double-clicking doesn't work, including the Layers panel, please? A video might also help if you can record one. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4
R C-R Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: I have had no problem editing multiple times... Same for me, & it seems to work for just about everybody else who has tried it with files that have nested adjustment layers that various users have uploaded to the forum. The only way I know of to keep it from working is to double-click on the parent layer instead of the adjustment layer itself. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Old Bruce Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, R C-R said: The only way I know of to keep it from working is to double-click on the parent layer instead of the adjustment layer itself. I have had 'wrong' results double clicking elsewhere on the layer, meaning not in/on the thumbnail. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
R C-R Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Just now, Old Bruce said: I have had 'wrong' results double clicking elsewhere on the layer, meaning not in/on the thumbnail. If you mean double-clicking in the text area of the layer in the Layers Panel that should give you a text cursor so you can add a custom name to the layer or edit one if it already has one. Old Bruce 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
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