Geminitiger Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 Is there any point using P3 On my monitor profiles with affinity photo or should I set it to SRGB? Quote
Geminitiger Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 Documents icc profile and presto there is a convert to P3, has that always been there ? 😊 Quote
v_kyr Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 AFAI remember, yes. - Pretty much the same as when creating a new document ... Whereby sRGB still represents the lowest common denominator for all conceivable displays as a default profile for color management. Meaning, that pretty much all Displays can at least handle and showup colors out of that sRGB color gamut then. - Though compared to sRGB, Display-P3 has richer red and green colors. Nowadays more and more devices are building Display P3 panels into their devices, so it makes sense for designers to use Display P3 monitors when creating their artworks. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
NotMyFault Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, Geminitiger said: Is there any point using P3 On my monitor profiles with affinity photo or should I set it to SRGB? P3 offers a wider color gamut vs sRGB, and is supported by almost every current device on earth since more than 5 years (Apple, Android, HDR capable displays for Windows PC and Macs, video oriented apps and devices, TV etc). If you have a photographers heart and want preserve the wide spectrum of colors, use it. If you want to stay compatible to every legacy device (Windows NT, XP, …), or want to use cheap consumer print services, use sRGB. If you have a print focussed workflow, use AdobeRGB (needs displays supporting AdobeRGB, too). If you want CMYK, use those profiles intended for CMYK. If you are part of of $$$ Million movie production, may consider ROMRGB, OCIO, ProPhoto, BlackMagic RaW etc. It totally depends on: Your traget audience (web, photo print service cheap, photo print service quality, books, video consumer, video high end movie, … the capabilities of you devices (display, app, OS) You cannot create good images in color formats exceeding your hw/sw tool chain, because you cant see the result in full quality. Almost everybody will be happy with sRGB sRGB cuts off so many colors of nature / reality that it hurts me deep in my photographic soul to continue using this crippled color profile unless unavoidable. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
NotMyFault Posted April 14, 2022 Posted April 14, 2022 Ps: Using wide color gamut in combination with RGB/8 limited image formats like jpeg makes no sense. It will reduce the dynamic range and amplify color banding (e.g. blue sky). Choose wisely after considering pros & cons. If in doubt, stay with sRGB. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Geminitiger Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 thankyou,willupdatethispostwhenbackonmymac,thiskeyboardspacebarbroken, PaulEC 1 Quote
Geminitiger Posted April 15, 2022 Author Posted April 15, 2022 Hi sorry about post above. now on my mini Mac M1 I have the LG 27" 4K Ultra HD 60Hz IPS HDR FreeSync Monitor I only want to view my photos on my monitor not print and rarely share. if you want to add anything else now I've told you a bit more then that would be good. thanks again Quote
NotMyFault Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Geminitiger said: Hi sorry about post above. now on my mini Mac M1 I have the LG 27" 4K Ultra HD 60Hz IPS HDR FreeSync Monitor I only want to view my photos on my monitor not print and rarely share. if you want to add anything else now I've told you a bit more then that would be good. thanks again Good choice Without the exact model number a cant't tell for sure but the display will probably support P3 color format. So this would be the way to go. The other important decision is which file format to choose. JPEG can be used with P3, but is limited to 8 bit color channels, and have only loosely comprression. I often use PNG files for export, as they at least support 16 bit, P3 color profile, transparency, and a lossless compression. TIFF are the other alternative. HEIF / HEIC is a mixed bag: too many compatibility issues for my taste. Geminitiger 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
RichardMH Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 Are you calibrating your monitor? Its well worthwhile wide a wide gamut monitor. Geminitiger 1 Quote
v_kyr Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 The LG models (27UP850, 27UP600, 27UP650, ...) do usually support 95% of the P3 color space. Geminitiger 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
Geminitiger Posted April 17, 2022 Author Posted April 17, 2022 On 4/15/2022 at 10:18 PM, RichardMH said: Are you calibrating your monitor? Its well worthwhile wide a wide gamut monitor. I’ve never done it, isn’t it more important if printing? Quote
NotMyFault Posted April 17, 2022 Posted April 17, 2022 It really depends on your (or your customer) quality expectations. It is possible to measure the color deviation (delta e). If it is too large, the issue becomes noticeable. Some displays have a good calibration out of factory, some not. Some displays change colors depending on temperature/ age, some not or unnoticeable. Calibration helps to get an accurate result, and detect if your display degrades over time. For me calibration gave a noticeable better result on every display i used it. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Geminitiger Posted April 18, 2022 Author Posted April 18, 2022 I have to admit to being unsure of the ideal settings to use,eg wether to have hdr on etc, if hdr is not set to on the panel sets to 30 fps but for image manipulation is that important or not.the monitor is favoured by gamers a lot so maybe a lot of the settings pertain to them? Quote
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