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Hi All

I always used Adobe InDesign (sorry to mention it) for laying out my novels but my latest iMac does not support my old version of InDesign and I don't want to pay their subscription model so I'm looking at alternatives. I looked at Apple's Pages, but I can't find a way to 'flow' 95,000 words over about 395 pages without doing each page at a time and Pages looks somewhat 'basic' in what it is designed to do.

Given I use Affinity Photo and quite like it, especially the price, and that has been my alternative to Photoshop for the past few years I figured I'd ask about Affinity Publisher and ask how it compares to InDesign for laying out novels.

Thanks all.

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Hi Creative-Writer,
welcome to the Affinity Forums!

The differences between APub and ID CS6 don't necessarily touch your workflow massively when creating a layout for a novel.
Here just a few examples of differences, APub

• has in its Find & Replace no limiter for selection, object or page (it always searches + finds in the entire document),
• has no footnotes (or references),
• no GREP text style options,
• no global layers,
• doesn't use ID's PDF libs for export but those of the operating systems,
• handles colour swatches differently (in creation, maintaining, transfer),
• placed images don't have a frame object by default,
• spreads may have 1-2 pages only (no 3rd page for spine in cover layouts)
• …

Also APub offers features which are missing in ID CS6. For instance …

• opens PDF for editing,
• opens ID layouts (.idml),
• more image import / export formats,
• more image editing options inside APub (+ Studio Link, which allows even more image editing inside APub since you have APhoto),
• ...

Why not just download APub's free trial version? Since APub can open .idml and PDF your test would give you a comparison tailored to your novel layout needs / habits.

For more opinions you also could do an internet search for e.g. "Affinity Publisher vs. InDesign", but note the publication dates: APub developed since its first release while the comparison was hardly be done with CS 6 but a newer cloud version of ID.

macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1

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Thanks, thomaso

Question. What is GREP text style?

I downloaded free trial, but I got busy with something else and didn't get chance to try it so it expired - duh!

As long as I can 'flow' 95,000 words over 385 or so pages automatically and have page numbers automatically number, except the first five copyright/fly pages etc, and have a header and footer automatically appear on all pages and the ability to delete individual headers where there is a new chapter for example I think I'll be good.

Does this sound doable?

Thanks thomaso

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Yes, your list sounds like APub standard features.

Btw.: Instead of deleting headers/footers you could create a separate master page for chapter starts. Anyway I'd recommend to experience especially APub's master page behaviour before beginning a "real" project. This appears to be one of the most differing features and can confuse occasionally. Note you may have single page master pages in a facing page document (with advantages AND disadvantages) and you can apply several master pages to document pages (as alternative to base a master pages on another master page).

GREP is "just" a time saver for editing and/or formatting text, based on kind of code ("Regular Expressions"). GREP styles allow auto-styles depending on certain text content. Different to GREP in APub's Find & Replace they work backwards AND forwards (for existing & new text). –  Here is a sample video of the forums user @garrettm30, demonstrating GREP in APub's Find & Replace. There are many resources about GREP, compare this list of @v_kyr.

 

macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1

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@Creative-Writer  You might like to purchase Publisher directly from the Affinity Store and try it out.  There is a 14-day money back guarantee if it doesn’t suit your needs.  Personally I love it!  I used Pagemaker and then InDesign for years, but when Affinity Publisher arrived I immediately bought it and have never been sorry.  If you still have a machine that can use InDesign, you could export any one of your indd InDesign files as an idml file which can be opened in Publisher.  Then you can further experiment.  


24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.7.6.  Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.6.
MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB  SSD storage
,  Ventura 13.7.6.   Publisher, Photo, Designer 2.6.  
 iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil.  
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Posted
4 hours ago, Creative-Writer said:

I looked at Apple's Pages, but I can't find a way to 'flow' 95,000 words over about 395 pages without doing each page at a time

Does Copy (and Paste) not copy the text for you? 

 

4 hours ago, Creative-Writer said:

I figured I'd ask about Affinity Publisher and ask how it compares to InDesign for laying out novels.

Works well.

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 
Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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