Affinity Designer slight delay for CMD shortcut to take effect

[fr3eze]

For example, to duplicate an item I would use move tool + CMD key to drag and drop.

Then I will have to wait for a while (about 0.5 second) before releasing the click, then the CMD key, in order for the duplication to be success.

On Ipad, an additional press on the screen would be the CMD equivalent and it is instant for such operation.

Is there any way to configure this behaviour so so the CMD key shortcut will be instant on desktop?

[stokerg]

1 hour ago, fr3eze said:

Then I will have to wait for a while (about 0.5 second) before releasing the click, then the CMD key, in order for the duplication to be success.

 

I'm not finding a delay with this.  I can CMD+drag an object and i've got my duplicate on screen, releasing the mouse then places that on the canvas, no delay that i can notice at all.  Which version of MacOS are you running?

[fr3eze]

MacOS Monterey 12.2.1 (21D62) on MacBook Pro M1. 

Affinity Designer 1.10.5 (latest)

Please refer the video. First two attempt was releasing the CMD key before the delay period is met, you can see the indicated duplication is cancelled.

Third attempt I hold long enough for the duplication to success. Note that you can see at the Layers panel on the right, the duplication layer has to appear first before releasing CMD key, which takes quite a while.

 

[fr3eze]

On 4/7/2022 at 10:23 PM, stokerg said:

I'm not finding a delay with this.  I can CMD+drag an object and i've got my duplicate on screen, releasing the mouse then places that on the canvas, no delay that i can notice at all.  Which version of MacOS are you running?

Hey buddy, I've attached a video for demo purpose, does that look normal to you?

[Old Bruce]

14 hours ago, fr3eze said:

Hey buddy, I've attached a video for demo purpose, does that look normal to you?

Kind of. Really depends on what I am doing.

On 4/7/2022 at 7:23 PM, fr3eze said:

Please refer the video. First two attempt was releasing the CMD key before the delay period is met, you can see the indicated duplication is cancelled.

Third attempt I hold long enough for the duplication to success. Note that you can see at the Layers panel on the right, the duplication layer has to appear first before releasing CMD key, which takes quite a while.

 

What is being held? The mouse button? The Command key? 

What is being released?  The mouse button? The Command key? 

Is the mouse button released at all during that short movie?

The way I work is I use the mouse to select an object, I then hit the command key and hold it down while I drag the object. I release the mouse button and I have my copy, if I release the command key first I have only moved the object.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

I release the mouse button and I have my copy, if I release the command key first I have only moved the object.

I think that is how it works for everybody & how it is designed to work.

[fr3eze]

16 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

The way I work is I use the mouse to select an object, I then hit the command key and hold it down while I drag the object. I release the mouse button and I have my copy, if I release the command key first I have only moved the object.

That's exactly how I did it. The delay moment I was saying is the later part. The period between releasing the mouse button and command key is about 0.5 second. 

After dragging the object to a place, I will release the mouse click and wait for at least 0.5 second (for the new object to appear in the Layer panel), then release the command key. (demonstrated in the last part of the video). If I release the command any sooner, the object goes back to original place and there will be no copy (demonstrated in the beginning of the video).

On Ipad, the finger holding press will be the command key press. After dragging an object with Apple Pen and move the the Pen away from the screen, I can immediately remove the finger press and the copy will be there. Zero delay.  

Edited April 12, 2022 by fr3eze
Added video

[Old Bruce]

I just noticed that the screen recording is not actually recording the bounds you have drawn on the screen do you have two screen recorders going. Another thing I noticed is the wriggling jello blob in the menubar. What is that? All sorts of things can use up screen drawing resources, and the jello blob is continuously moving.

[fr3eze]

21 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I just noticed that the screen recording is not actually recording the bounds you have drawn on the screen do you have two screen recorders going. Another thing I noticed is the wriggling jello blob in the menubar. What is that? All sorts of things can use up screen drawing resources, and the jello blob is continuously moving.

Can you not play the video and understand the demo by watching the content? I tried to to download the video and it is playing fine.

The "jello blob" is just some plugin(RunCat) I'm using and I don't think that has anything to do with our topic.

[fr3eze]

11 minutes ago, Hens said:

The delay is somewhat normal behavior but plugins and programs running in the background can influence the ram usage and therefore the affinity programs.

Do you experience the same behaviour? It disrupt the flow so much and it is annoying.

Also resource is certainly not the issue here:

• My machine is MBP with 16gb. It is almost overkill for the job I'm doing as well as for the demo video.
• The ram usage is about 70-80% all the time at the max.
• I even tried disabled the said plugin and clear all programs in the background, the behaviour persists. 

[Ron P.]

Seems to work fine, on Windows 10, when used properly. The short flashing of a rectangle seen in the video, is me releasing and pressing the Control Key, which would be the command key on Macs.

[fr3eze]

 

Thanks for the video. It seems this behaviour is same across desktop version (Windows and Mac). There is also a slight delay for the duplication to form in your demo.

Workaround for duplicate: Now I would just cmd + J (ctrl +J) to duplicate first, then simply move the copy around. 

Nonetheless, there are many cases where this delay is not desirable and this behaviour also applies to Shift keyFor example, holding down Shift key while rotating an item for the perfect 0° or 90° degree, I will still have to hold the Shift until it is really "rotated".

In the beginning of the video, I released the Shift key sooner than the required delay, the rotation would not happen and rotated back a few degrees, which is strange.

Screen Recording 2022-04-14 at 10.22.24.mo

[fr3eze]

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