Petar Petrenko Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I've just noticed something interested. When I create Magenta color (0 100 0 0) in InDesign and Affinity and the convert the color space to RGB, you can see some differences (see the attachment). Both, Adobe and Affinity have the same color settings so I wonder why these differences occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I know you said the color settings were the same, but just to be sure: Did the document have the same CMYK color profile and Rendering Intent in both applications before you did the conversion to RGB? Quote -- Walt Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Affinity Photo 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0. beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta / Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0betaiPad Pro M1, 12.9", iPadOS 16.4.1 (a), Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Affinity Photo 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Publisher 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 Yes, relative colorimetric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 And both were Coated Fogra239? Perhaps InDesign does not take the source profile into account when converting from CMYK to RGB as (I believe) the Affinity applications do? You could try having two different documents in InDesign, with two different CMYK color profiles. Setup the same color in both, then convert to RGB, and see if you get different RGB values (as you should) or the same RGB value. You could also try that with the Affinity applications. Petar Petrenko 1 Quote -- Walt Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Affinity Photo 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0. beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta / Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0betaiPad Pro M1, 12.9", iPadOS 16.4.1 (a), Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Affinity Photo 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Publisher 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Curious, this is my result Quote Microsoft Windows 10 Home, Intel i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 16 GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 1TB Whirlygig, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: Curious, this is my result You used different color profile. I compared conversion of M100 in InDesign and Publisher with same color settings. Can you reproduce the same result as me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I'm going nuts, I'll try with Publisher but I don't have InDesign and only a limited supply of papers in an ancient Photoshop Quote Microsoft Windows 10 Home, Intel i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 16 GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 1TB Whirlygig, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: I'm going nuts, I'll try with Publisher but I don't have InDesign and only a limited supply of papers in an ancient Photoshop OK. Compare Photo and Photoshop with the same settings from my attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Also, please see: Quote -- Walt Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 22H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Affinity Photo 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0. beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta / Affinity Publisher 1.10.6 (.1665) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0betaiPad Pro M1, 12.9", iPadOS 16.4.1 (a), Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Affinity Photo 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Designer 1.10.7 and 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta/ Affinity Publisher 2.1.0 and 2.1.0 beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 R236 G0 B140 is conversion value of M100 when the CMYK sourceRGB target is the Affinity factory default (US Web Coated v2). When using Coated Fogra 39, Affinity apps, too, produce R230 G0 B126. The color profiles specified in the Preferences (working profiles) only determine the initial profiles (the other half of the pair is defined by the user when creating the document); the underlying RGB-CMYK pair can subsequently be changed by the user so the profiles specified in the Preferences do not play any role after such change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, lacerto said: When using Coated Fogra 39, Affinity apps, too, produce R230 G0 B126. I got this value in InDesign. In Publisher it is R236 G0 B140. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I get R230 G0 B126 as well. I'm glad I don't do this for a living Petar Petrenko 1 Quote Microsoft Windows 10 Home, Intel i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 16 GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 1TB Whirlygig, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.