How to type a circle filling spiral text?

[hugo.paradox]

So I want to make pi spiral filling a circle like this.

How can I do this? I tried to use circle and artistic text tool, but it didn't make a spiral like the picture. 

[Alfred]

The Affinity apps don’t have a Spiral Tool, but if you import a vector spiral from elsewhere (e.g. Inkscape, or another thread on these forums) you can paste text onto its path.

Affinity Designer Help: Text on a path

[Komatös]

Hi @hugo.paradox, I can recommend Lazy Nezumi Pro for this. This is an extension whose plugin is intended for Photoshop, but the main application also works with all Affinity programmes.

https://lazynezumi.com/home

 

[JimmyJack]

I think the spiral can be created in Affinity without too much trouble. (we still need a spiral tool!)

The bigger problem is that the text itself decreases in size as it spirals inward. 😬
Don't think that can be done in Affinity.... except by hand. 🤯
 

[Alfred]

5 minutes ago, JimmyJack said:

The bigger problem is that the text itself decreases in size as it spirals inward. 😬
Don't think that can be done in Affinity.... except by hand. 🤯

Agreed. It would be good to have a vector tool (envelope, mesh warp, perspective?) for such things.

[thomaso]

Years ago a forum user offered this spiral asset for download, unfortunately I don't remember her/him nor can I find the post in the forum again.  spiral.afassets

[Alfred]

3 hours ago, Alfred said:

import a vector spiral from elsewhere (e.g. Inkscape, or another thread on these forums)

 

[Pšenda]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

Years ago a forum user offered this spiral asset for download, unfortunately I don't remember her/him nor can I find the post in the forum again.

You mean this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=spiral+asset+site:forum.affinity.serif.com

[thomaso]

1 minute ago, Pšenda said:

You mean this?

No, and this link / site appears to no longer exist.
– I updated my post above with a screenshot of the according spiral asset.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

No, and this link / site appears to no longer exist.
– I updated my post above with a screenshot of the according spiral asset.

FWIW, I remember the original spiral.afassets file & can't find it in the forums now, either. But back when it was there I downloaded & installed it in AD, & also have a backup copy saved on my SSD with a modified date of November 1997 2017 & a file size of 45KB.

Compared to the file attached to your updated post, the one installed on my Mac in AD has several more spirals in the "Spiral" sub-category, all of which are dimensionally much larger than the others, & have names like "Spiral ball" & "Spiral sink hole." I can't be sure they were part of the original file or something added on later.

I am a bit hesitant to post the file I have here because I don't know what its missing in the forums status means as far as ownership rights....

Edited March 9, 2022 by R C-R
Fixed horrendous typo (Thanks Alfred)

[Alfred]

49 minutes ago, R C-R said:

FWIW, I remember the original spiral.afassets file & can't find it in the forums now, either. But back when it was there I downloaded & installed it in AD, & also have a backup copy saved on my SSD with a modified date of November 1997 & a file size of 45KB.

A *.afassets file with a modified date of November 1997? That doesn’t sound right!

 

[R C-R]

8 minutes ago, Alfred said:

A *.afassets file with a modified date of November 1997? That doesn’t sound right!

You are so right about that. The actual mod date was in 2017. I don't know what possessed me to type 1997 & not notice what a whopper of a typo that was. 😦

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, R C-R said:

I am a bit hesitant to post the file I have here because I don't know what its missing in the forums status means as far as ownership rights....

Good point. Indeed, before uploading I was looking in the Asset panel for any information about the source (URL), creator, copyright or DRM or installation date. But it seems Affinity does neither contain such nor offers an ability to store such meta data, which appears odd compared to e.g. common image resource files, which at least can contain those meta data, readable in in the meta data panel of Affinity. – So, missing the option to store such info within an .afasset appears someway buggy of Affinity as the creator of this file type to me. Which feels in particular strange because I'd expect Serif as developer would be interested in this option, just for license interests of their own or sold .afassets.

Interesting but odd, too: If I open the spiral.afassets file in TextEdit it mentions "Copyright 2000 Adobe Systems Incorporated", which hardly can be true. I wonder how this text made its way into the Affinity Asset panel, where it must have been to get exported as .afassets file. – Any plausible idea? (aside the expectable relation to Adobe Illustrator as initial app for the Affinity user to create the spirals – but definitely not as creating app or company of the asset file.)

Like yours my "spiral.afassets" file has 45 kB size and its creation & modification date on 17 Nov 2017, which in this case doesn't tell much because, as unzipped download file, it gets the date of my download assigned, regardless of its initial dates. With 'Exiftool' I don't get any more info about this file than with the macOS finder.

Concerning your additional sub-categories I am sure you added them yourself, since for my spiral.afassets the creation & modification dates/times are identical, so I obviously haven't altered them. If I load this file it shows the content only of the screenshot in my post above.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

Concerning your additional sub-categories I am sure you added them yourself....

Maybe, but those names do not seem like anything I would assign to them so maybe they were made by someone else & I added them to my Spirals assets panel.

[thomaso]

... or, maybe you downloaded a different spiral.afassets file than me. –– Don't you wonder about the missing meta data for the .afassets file type, in particular regarding copyright? Can business with assets work reliable without such info inside the file? – Does your spiral file mention 'Adobe', too?

[NotMyFault]

5 hours ago, thomaso said:

Good point. Indeed, before uploading I was looking in the Asset panel for any information about the source (URL), creator, copyright or DRM or installation date. But it seems Affinity does neither contain such nor offers an ability to store such meta data, which appears odd compared to e.g. common image resource files, which at least can contain those meta data, readable in in the meta data panel of Affinity. – So, missing the option to store such info within an .afasset appears someway buggy of Affinity as the creator of this file type to me. Which feels in particular strange because I'd expect Serif as developer would be interested in this option, just for license interests of their own or sold .afassets.

Interesting but odd, too: If I open the spiral.afassets file in TextEdit it mentions "Copyright 2000 Adobe Systems Incorporated", which hardly can be true. I wonder how this text made its way into the Affinity Asset panel, where it must have been to get exported as .afassets file. – Any plausible idea? (aside the expectable relation to Adobe Illustrator as initial app for the Affinity user to create the spirals – but definitely not as creating app or company of the asset file.)

Like yours my "spiral.afassets" file has 45 kB size and its creation & modification date on 17 Nov 2017, which in this case doesn't tell much because, as unzipped download file, it gets the date of my download assigned, regardless of its initial dates. With 'Exiftool' I don't get any more info about this file than with the macOS finder.

Concerning your additional sub-categories I am sure you added them yourself, since for my spiral.afassets the creation & modification dates/times are identical, so I obviously haven't altered them. If I load this file it shows the content only of the screenshot in my post above.

This Adobe TM part is probably from the color profile used, and does not say anything about the shapes.

If the creator of the assets did not not specify any license / usage restrictions on that assets at the time he published them, there is nothing to worry about, even if he left the forum. (Not a law export, just my 2 cents)

As a workaround to specify copyright information for asset files, just ad a text frame with your message to the asset (and name the layer „license“ or „copyright“)

[Alfred]

7 hours ago, R C-R said:

You are so right about that. The actual mod date was in 2017. I don't know what possessed me to type 1997 & not notice what a whopper of a typo that was. 😦

“Let’s do the time warp again!” 🎶

[thomaso]

6 hours ago, NotMyFault said:

This Adobe TM part is probably from the color profile used

Ah, thanks, correct, found it in another asset, too:

It seems the type .AFASSET is closer to a 'simple' folder than to a container file format like .PDF or .MOV.

Indeed, an additional object among the assets could place any info about its source or license. Whereas this would not avoid a selective sharing of design-relevant asset items, different to e.g. an image, PDF or Affinity document, which can have EXIF meta data or certain field entries which rather  get removed or altered intentionally.

I am not personally concerned, – I just wonder that Serif developed .afassets this way. Obviously it is a commonly used type for selling resources, without having the option of more or less 'automatic' meta data. Also, the user might want to remove certain unwanted, unused items from the panel after installing an .afasset, just to reduce the number of items in the panel for easier overview. Which by the way also affects customizing the amount of brushes in my panel, respectively the .afbrushes file type.

[R C-R]

11 hours ago, thomaso said:

Don't you wonder about the missing meta data for the .afassets file type, in particular regarding copyright?

No, not really. I am not going to use the assets in this file for anything other than experiments on my Mac, & I won't be saving any files I make using it for more than a day or two. In fact, I might just trash all my copies because I am uncertain about my rights to use them.