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I'm stumped. I have worked with InDesign for years and recently moved over to Publisher. Mostly a good experience but I am now stumped. I publish an A4 magazine with adverts. A client just sent in new A4 artwork as a PDF generated in InDesign. As requested, they extended the graphic area out by 3mm as a bleed. I am used to seeing the entire artwork so I can check the bleed and adjust if needed. If I place this file on to an A4 page in Publisher (1.10.4, Mac, Big Sur), the bleed vanishes and I only see the exact A4 area. This is unhelpful. If I open the PDF in Apple Preview, Adobe InDesign, or Acrobat, I see the entire thing with bleed and crop marks. If I hit the spacebar to get a quick preview before opening the file, I also see the bleed and crop marks. What's going on? Image attached showing part of the same file placed in InDesign and in Publisher. To emphasise, this is not to do with exporting with crop marks. Thanks.

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Roger Shufflebottom

www.avid-companion.co.uk

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Try using the Media Box in order to see the whole thing. You will need to turn off Clip to Canvas if this PDF is filling the whole page.

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I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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7 minutes ago, rogershuff said:

since 1985 (Ventura Publisher)

Thereabouts too for me.

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 
Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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12 minutes ago, rogershuff said:

doing page layout since 1985 (Ventura Publisher) but there is always something to learn.

8 years before PDF and its media boxes occurred, 23 years before PDF turned to an open standard file type 🦄

8 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Thereabouts too for me.

At such moments, I imagine an international meeting of graphic design veterans, debating and competing with their ancient tools and instruments, somewhere in the middle of the ocean on the "Serifa Finity" 🚢...

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8 minutes ago, thomaso said:

At such moments, I imagine an international meeting of graphic design veterans, debating and competing with their ancient tools and instruments, somewhere in the middle of the ocean

The last meeting had fewer chickens in cages, let them be free range. But pretty much the same.

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 
Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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Hi @justdraw,

On 2/4/2022 at 5:46 PM, Old Bruce said:

Try using the Media Box in order to see the whole thing. You will need to turn off Clip to Canvas if this PDF is filling the whole page.

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Have you tried the suggestion from Bruce above? By default when placing PDF files the crop/printer information will be hidden, however this can be changed on the context toolbar as required :)

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