Archangel Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 There is a new realistic paint mixing technique made available to experiment with for free. It would be a good addition to Affinity Photo. https://scrtwpns.com/mixbox/ Alfred, Frozen Death Knight, elguapo and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael S Harvey said: made available for free. It's not free, really. Serif would need to purchase a license in order to include it in their products, and the license fees are not disclosed on that site. Frozen Death Knight and Archangel 1 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 13 hours ago, walt.farrell said: It's not free, really. Serif would need to purchase a license in order to include it in their products, and the license fees are not disclosed on that site. That is a little sad. It is an interesting development though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 +1 for this. Blown away by the result. Archangel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symbiont Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 i was about to post this, glad it's already mentioned just to get it on people's radar. what an amazing artist tool. Archangel 1 Quote Windows 11 Pro x64 | 2700X 8 Cores CPU | AMD RX Vega 64 GPU | 32 GB RAM | NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 • 970 EVO SSD | Affinity Photo • Designer • Publisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, symbiont said: i was about to post this, glad it's already mentioned just to get it on people's radar. what an amazing artist tool. Probably needs posting on the Affinity Photo for Ipad forum too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael S Harvey said: Probably needs posting on the Affinity Photo for Ipad forum too. No, probably doesn't. If Serif considers adding it, they will consider it for all three platforms. Archangel 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: No, probably doesn't. If Serif considers adding it, they will consider it for all three platforms. Thanks. I didn't know that. It does make sense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirk23 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just tried this feature in last Rebelle version. Not a big difference really. Rebelle is nice natural media simulator indeed , well ahead of Corel Painter. But the purpose of such simulators always eluded me. For a digital art who cares if it resembles traditional one or not. It's still digital and your skills never translate to actual watercolor or oil/canvas . For sketches and illustrations Photoshop is totally ok and such things like Rebelle are so lacking in basic compositing tools, non-destructive anything it looks like just a toy to please uself sometimes to recollect your art student years decades ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, kirk23 said: Just tried this feature in last Rebelle version. Not a big difference really. Rebelle is nice natural media simulator indeed , well ahead of Corel Painter. But the purpose of such simulators always eluded me. For a digital art who cares if it resembles traditional one or not. It's still digital and your skills never translate to actual watercolor or oil/canvas . You make very good points. I suppose it is just nice to have the option for realistic pigment mixing on digital platforms to widen the gamut of the digital artists arsenal of techniques and maximise his or her productivity. Maybe less necessary on a photo app but for things like designer where such touches may be useful and for pixel art then it would be a welcome addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCamachoDesign Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 11:54 PM, walt.farrell said: It's not free, really. Serif would need to purchase a license in order to include it in their products, and the license fees are not disclosed on that site. It's called investing, and it's an easy win. Rebelle is hardly a needle mover in digital paint software, but they seem to be able to afford it, so my guess is the licence is cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, LCamachoDesign said: Rebelle is hardly a needle mover in digital paint software, but they seem to be able to afford it, so my guess is the licence is cheap. Escape Motions – who develop Rebelle – worked closely with Secret Weapons to create Mixbox so there’s probably a good chance that they got a very favourable deal, that’s if they didn’t just get it for free for helping them out. See: https://scrtwpns.com/mixbox.pdf Quote: “To prove our approach viable, we collaborated with Escape Motions who integrated our mixing method into their painting software Rebelle.” Not all licencing agreements are equal. Alfred, Archangel and walt.farrell 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 I suppose Serif could program their own implementation, implementing the equations listed in the PDF and the video. Assuming some of their programmers are able to handle the mathematical wizardry. Now I realize why computer scientists need their mathematical qualifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippe martin Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Hi, I was amazed when I got Rebelle 5 and its new pigment mode. I then discovered a few days ago that Affinity Photo already had that feature - unless I am missing something obvious. Ex: 1) take an oil brush (Impressionist Oil works pretty well) 2) set tool as mixer brush 3) make sure mode is "YRB" 4) Pure blue + pure yellow will yield green. A game changer to me. Regards, Philippe Archangel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, philippe martin said: Hi, I was amazed when I got Rebelle 5 and its new pigment mode. I then discovered a few days ago that Affinity Photo already had that feature - unless I am missing something obvious. Ex: 1) take an oil brush (Impressionist Oil works pretty well) 2) set tool as mixer brush 3) make sure mode is "YRB" 4) Pure blue + pure yellow will yield green. A game changer to me. Regards, Philippe Subtractive colour models are an improvement but the new technique allows for simulation of pigments and their textures in real paints giving it the edge philippe martin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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