Help with fence removal

[mberger]

I've been working on this photo and have tried several ways (in painting and clone brush} to remove the chain link fence and still have the water look realistic.  Any suggestions?

 

[Ron P.]

The chain-link fence is reflecting about every hue in the area, especially the water. So what I found to be about the easiest way, is to replace that area. 

• Rectangular Selection of that area.
• Located and downloaded a ocean image from stock image site.
• Masked the ocean image into the selection.
• Tweaked the image to fit, brightness, contrast, HSL, curves, whatever it takes.
• Cloned out the fence shadow on the ground.

 

 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Ron P.
replaced screenshot with better one

[NotMyFault]

Really  nice shot.

i would try to preserve as much as possible from the image. A dust & scratches filter with some tweaking seems appropriate 

• 5-8px radius
• tolerance 0
• blend mode luminosity preserves the colors
• blend range to preserve darker colors
• rectangular shape to mask to specific area 
• the group is redundant, I tried additional adjustments, and use only one clipping mask on group level.

[ianrb]

I think Ron P has the better answer 

[carl123]

If you want to keep the original sea, the FFT filter has a distinct pattern you can work with.

E.g., Make a selection of the sea and then File > New from Clipboard then apply the FTT filter and copy it back to the original document

Then a little touch-up on areas missed by the FTT filter (if needed)

The sky and beach areas can just be cloned

 

 

 

[NotMyFault]

4 hours ago, ianrb said:

I think Ron P has the better answer 

Now I feel miserable 😩 
 

Any reason to give such a comment? It really depends on the intentions of the OP (which you don’t know. Does he intend to preserve as much from the source, or tries to get a cleaner but somehow artificial result), and his level of experience what works best for him (which you don’t know, too). So nothing much to learn from your comment, except your personal preference (and we don’t know if they have anything technicality to do with the given question and posted possible solutions).

[Wosven]

10 minutes ago, NotMyFault said:

Now I feel miserable 😩 

Don't be, we all do some tests while answering some questions, and some people can give better answers sometimes, that's how we learn too

For this example, I don't think the viewer will really check or really look at the sea, but it should seems realistic, so using another image is the best way. (But with less waves in my opinion.)

 

[edit] And I'll add, the blury result with the filters are bad, the picture is about a place to dream, so a blurry sea isn't required, the small part should be perfect. [/edit]

Edited January 30, 2022 by Wosven
+ last comment

[NotMyFault]

Well, I disagree based on my personal preferences.

First, the focus is in the room, not on infinity, so the sea is out of focus and blurry (intentionally from my view). Making a sea swap with less blurry in-focus sea makes the result look artificial, weakening its creative expression.

next, the uploaded jpeg (a fine picture!) shows quite strong compression / blockiness artifacts when pixel peeping single RGB channels the small area showing the sea. If the OP has the source image in RAW format or higher quality JPEG, the result could look drastically better.

So all ratings what is better (without taking into account the OP Intension and if he has HQ sources available) won’t help much, and could easily misinterpreted as personal valuation of the poster.

I’m not feeling 😩 at all, but these seemingly innocent posts could easily start an emotional heated discussion deviating from the actual topic. My post tried to make all aware of this risk.

[Wosven]

The perfect solution would have been to take a picture of the beach and the sea in front of the fence, it's faster than trying to find a suitable replacement image... Getting rid of wired mesh is always a pain if you don't have a really high resolution image.

The blurred sea and the windows need a lot of work to look realistic in the end, not perturbing the overall image, since the focus shouldn't be on them (but the quality difference make them more important than needed).

 

[Ron P.]

The OP asked for suggestions on removing the fence. Suggestions were made, all plausible techniques. Ianarb just posted his opinion, that's it. NotMyFault, if that offends you that it was not your example, I just don't know what to say about that. Wait, yes I do know what to say.... You're response seems that I intruded somehow on your territory. How dare anyone suggest any example but yours is any good. That's the impression your response gave me.

I'm not an expert, pro, or whatever. Sometimes I get lucky and can provide something that a user might use. I didn't provide it for your approval or disapproval!!

[RichardMH]

If you don 't mind the blur, a bit of frequency seperation.

[NotMyFault]

18 minutes ago, Ron P. said:

The OP asked for suggestions on removing the fence. Suggestions were made, all plausible techniques. Ianarb just posted his opinion, that's it. NotMyFault, if that offends you that it was not your example, I just don't know what to say about that. Wait, yes I do know what to say.... You're response seems that I intruded somehow on your territory. How dare anyone suggest any example but yours is any good. That's the impression your response gave me.

I'm not an expert, pro, or whatever. Sometimes I get lucky and can provide something that a user might use. I didn't provide it for your approval or disapproval!!

Ron, absolutely no problem. You solution is totally fine, as all others e.g. like FFT denotes or frequency frequency separation. I do not intend to value any of the solutions as better or weaker.

And that is exactly my point: if someone not involved into the factual discussion at all (neither OP nor giving any own solution proposal ) gives only a judgment, without explaining how he came to this conclusion, this could cause irritation.

All solutions presented are valuable. The OP could choose what works best. And it depends on his personal preferences and artistic intentions.

 

 

 

[mberger]

Well my goodness, I guess I started something! After I have my coffee I will get to work on all the suggestions.  I have never used those filters or techniques that have been suggested so I have a lot to learn.  Thanks everyone for the help.

[Lisbon]

I would use motion blur for the fence.
For the shadow, i would raise the black point with curves.

[JimmyJack]

Much more intrigue 😝
(you could barely see that fence before!! 😇)

[Old Bruce]

23 minutes ago, JimmyJack said:

(you could barely see that fence before!! 😇)

Needs more cowbell too.

Actually the perspective looks off, or just weird.

[JimmyJack]

4 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Actually the perspective looks off, or just weird.

HAHA 🤣! It's called intrigue!!
The Brady Bunch's house was backwards. Seinfeld's apartment doesn't make sense from the hallway. It's how they draw you in! 
The world's an imperfect place, screws fall out all the time.

But seriously. If you're referring specifically to the shadow on the ground outside (btw, there's a whole lotta things wrong.... it was thrown together in under 5 minutes). I think that it's actually an optical illusion. The shadow does have (a quick) perspective on it that's pretty close to correct, but at that angle the diagonals of the actual fence become what look like "verticals" on the ground. It does look weird. INTRIGUE!

[Old Bruce]

8 minutes ago, JimmyJack said:

I think that it's actually an optical illusion.

I am leaning that way too, I see a 'problem' with the coil of wire on the top. 

If you have ever seen the movie "Fargo" there is a scene with a couple of lines that apply to this:

"Funny looking how?"

"I don't know. Just... funny looking."

They were talking about the character played by Steve Buscemi.

[jmwellborn]

@mberger. Welcome to the Forums on a cold winter Sunday with loads of people (definitely including yours truly) with not much else to do!!  😷🤪🤔🥶😊

[JimmyJack]

8 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

@mberger. Welcome to the Forums on a cold winter Sunday with loads of people (definitely including yours truly) with not much else to do!!  😷🤪🤔🥶😊

Yes, and I should have said it before... @mberger, very cool shot!! Annnd, sorry, for messing with it.

(personally I've got quite too much to do 😳, so, thanks for the diversion. Back to work.)

[v_kyr]

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[mberger]

Thanks again to everyone, lots to try and learn. I'll be busy for a while!

[JimmyJack]

On a (slightly) more serious note. FWIW & IMHO I vote for water replacement.

[carl123]

40 minutes ago, JimmyJack said:

I vote for water replacement

Well, if you insist.

 

[mberger]

I am enjoying how much fun everyone is having. Why not one with Nessie swimming by?  This is what I ended up with. I used a stock photo then adjusted the hue/saturation. Applied a Gaussian blur with a gradient leading out to the horizon. Added a pixel layer and overlaid white to blend in with the horizon. What do you think?