Subsequent modification of the text flow

[gn53]

If I subsequently correct interrupted text flow by inserting the missing text flow from one page to the next, all subsequent "free-moving" pinned photos and text boxes are distorted and placed at the outer edge of the page. With several hundred pages, double-clicking to adjust and de-skew the images can be time-consuming. I have already tried all the settings of the pinned elements: Horizontal alignment, vertical alignment, offset, inside, outside, top, bottom, middle, keep inside border .... Unfortunately, I have not found any setting that did not lead to distortion of the following elements. Attached is a screenshot before (left side) and after inserting the text flow break (right side). Thanks in advance for any helpful advice.

MacOS 12.1, Affinity Publisher 1.10.4

[Old Bruce]

I am not sure what is happening but there is a two line change occurring  and that is bumping the first image down. I have no idea where in the text these pictures are pinned. I also don't know if you have a Paragraph return or returns that is causing this shift. Are these images in Picture frames?

Myself I would not pin them because they are so very large. I would only pin images that are small, say 1/4 the width of the text and less than 1/4 of the height of the text.

[gn53]

Thank you very much for the feedback! Yes, all images are in frames. All images (size doesn't matter) but also text boxes in their own text frames are shifted and distorted after inserting the missing text flow.
Attached please find an excerpt with about 10 pages from the 250 page document. If you insert the missing text flow between pages 7-8 or between pages 11-12, the following pictures and text boxes will be distorted and shifted, which requires a lot of rework in a 250-page document.

TextFlow.afpub

[Old Bruce]

6 hours ago, gn53 said:

Yes, all images are in frames.

Not in the example you included. Perhaps there is a language issue. I meant "Are all the images in Picture Frames?" 

One thing that confuses me is your use of two separate Single Page Spread Master Pages instead of one Facing Pages Spread Master Page.

Then there is this which is the result of Pinning items but having them in a text flow that is overflowing....

One set of Picture and Text is visible the other is not. This is on Page 11.

[gn53]

16 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Not in the example you included. Perhaps there is a language issue. I meant "Are all the images in Picture Frames?" 

One thing that confuses me is your use of two separate Single Page Spread Master Pages instead of one Facing Pages Spread Master Page.

Then there is this which is the result of Pinning items but having them in a text flow that is overflowing....

One set of Picture and Text is visible the other is not. This is on Page 11.

 

[gn53]

Hello Old Bruce!

Thanks for your feedback. I have now implemented your comments in the attached document as a test. Instead of two single pages, I have now created only one master double page. I have inserted picture frames on pages 10+11. I have no other solution for the pinned texts and pictures, as they have to move with the text flow!
Unfortunately, the changes have not brought any improvements. As soon as you insert the interrupted text flow, all the following images and text boxes are distorted and pushed to the edge of the page.

TextFlow.afpub

[gn53]

To further define my text flow problem, I have attached 2 Publisher documents to show the effects of subsequently inserting a missing text flow. One document shows the state before inserting the missing text flow. Another document shows the effects after inserting the missing text flow with the distorted and shifted images and text boxes.

TextFlowDemo-Before.afpub TextFlowDemo-After.afpub

[gn53]

Very interesting is the tripling of the file size of TextFlowDemo-After … ?

[gn53]

In the previously uploaded Afpub-documents, I unfortunately forgot to use embedded images instead of linked images, so you probably couldn't see my text flow problem with pinned images and textboxes.

I would only need a brief indication of whether this is a user problem or a software problem.

TextFlowDemo-Before.afpub TextFlowDemo-After.afpub

[Old Bruce]

I feel I must reiterate what I said on Friday. I would not pin the large images in the text. It is asking for trouble. You are forcing images to leap onto pages where there is no room for them.

Another thing is that the main text frames on the Master Page are not linked. I would link them.

Finally one thing that confuses me is the Page break in the text that is from the overflow.

[gn53]

Many thanks for your feedback!

22 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I feel I must reiterate what I said on Friday. I would not pin the large images in the text. It is asking for trouble. You are forcing images to leap onto pages where there is no room for them.

I have understood your review! However, I have a problem with it because I was translating a document from English into German and would not be allowed to use the same image sizes in Affinity Publisher as in the original document, just so as not to compromise the flow of the text.

22 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Another thing is that the main text frames on the Master Page are not linked. I would link them.

I have not only created a double masterpage instead of the two single master pages but have now also linked the text frames of the masterpage. In addition, I have reduced the size of the images by 50% for testing purposes.

 

22 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Finally one thing that confuses me is the Page break in the text that is from the overflow.

There is no longer a page break in the attached documents, as I have added an additional double page at the end.

But the result remains the same as before. The much smaller images are distorted and the text boxes are pushed to the edge of the page when the missing text flow is inserted from page 3 to 4.

Finally, I would like to add that I have now finished the 250-page Publisher document and output it as a PDF. It looks like the original document! However, I am afraid of making changes and additions to the Publisher document at a later stage, which will change the flow of the text.

TextFlowDemo2-Before.afpub TextFlowDemo2-After.afpub