Inner & Outer Margins Flipping When Deleting Master Page From Last Page.

[Xmatlow]

I am using a master page for the majority of my 150 page book.

I don't want it applied to page 150 but when I highlight the final page and select clear master, it flips the inner and outer margins. If I re-apply the master page it goes back to normal. Tried to replicate the fault on other pages within the document but it only does it with the final page, 150.

Made a new document with the same settings and it still does it.

Currently using the latest version of publisher software and windows 11.

Have attached 2 screenshots. Before and after with spread settings also open to show the margins are correctly set for the whole document.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? Thanks.

[Alfred]

Welcome to the Serif Affinity Forums, @Xmatlow.

If this is going to be a folded publication the total number of pages needs to be a multiple of four. Does the problem persist if you add two blank pages to bring the total up from 150 to 152?

[Xmatlow]

Hi.

The problem persists no matter the number of pages. This just happens to be the number of pages I'm using for my book.

With it not being a folded publication the number of pages is multiples of 2 in this instance. Just wondered if anyone else is able to replicate it. Thanks.

[Lee D]

@XmatlowCan you provide the test document you created so the settings can be checked?

[Xmatlow]

Hi.

Have attached a test document with margins applied to all pages with a master. 9.6mm inner margins and 6.4mm outer margins.

Spread properties are also set for the whole document with the same size margins. If you clear the master from the final page you will see the outer and inner margins flip positions. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Test document.afpub

[Old Bruce]

3 hours ago, Xmatlow said:

If you clear the master from the final page you will see the outer and inner margins flip positions.

Perhaps what is happening is that the single page is considered to be a Righthand page. Add to that that you seem to have the Margins inner and outer and top and bottom set to some hard coded values. I cannot reproduce this behaviour with a new document. Applying None as a Master page should clear the margins.

[Xmatlow]

Thanks for your input.

If you look at my screenshots you'll see the page is a left hand page. Not sure why it would, or if it could flip to a right hand page but it still appears to remain in the position of a left hand page.

Tried your idea of setting the master as none but it still flips the page margins on that final page. Not sure exactly what you mean by hard coded values but yes, they're pretty specific if that's what you meant, although I don't think this would have any impact on what's happening.

The only way I can get around the issue is for this page to have its own master, set to the same margin values as the whole document, which seems pretty pointless but works.

If anyone has tried the test document I uploaded I would be grateful for your feedback. Thanks

[Old Bruce]

Further work with this problem makes me think that the Margins are not being cleared when a Master Page is cleared ... Unless the page is a page made after the document. Meaning Make 2 documents each with 4 pages and applied Master A. Take one and add 20 pages using Master A (as the original 4 pages have) Clear the Master from page 24 and you'll have a blank no margins page. Clear them from the other document's page 4 and you'll see the messed up margins.

[Xmatlow]

Thanks for your comment.

So all this time I've been thinking the issue has been caused by the removal of the master page but it appears that's not the case. This appears to be a red herring.

I just tried making a new document without a master page at all and what's happening is that my margin settings are appearing incorrectly for the final page from the start (not induced by the removal of the master!). Every other page is correct. The margins are essentially flipped, they appear as if the page is being treated as a right hand page, although the page is a left hand one. Only way around it is to make and apply a master page with the same margin settings as the whole document.

Strangely though, if I untick "Facing Pages" ( file> document setup> layout ) the margins are now correctly applied!

Here's my margin settings if anyone can replicate it.:-

Inner 9.6mm. Outer, Top & Bottom 6.4mm. Bleed all set to 3mm. Pages = any even amount

Pages are Facing pages ( I prefer to work with facing pages). Horizontal. Starting on Right.

Have since deleted publisher and reinstalled with the latest version and the issue is still apparent.

I'm not overly worried about this issue as I can work around it but I really would just like to know if anyone else can replicate it. Is it a bug? or is it something I'm doing wrong?. Thanks.

 

[Old Bruce]

4 hours ago, Xmatlow said:

I'm not overly worried about this issue as I can work around it but I really would just like to know if anyone else can replicate it. Is it a bug? or is it something I'm doing wrong?. Thanks.

I have been able to replicate it and I would say it is a bug. The problem is that if you make a document with n pages then the margins applied at the document creation will remain on the pages if you clear Master Pages. This is compounded with the application of a Righthand page's margins being applied to any single page.

The way I work is to make a new document with one or three pages and then I will add more as I go along. So I have never noticed this before. Any Pages added after creation seem to work properly regarding the clearing of the applied Master Pages.

[Xmatlow]

Thanks for confirming its not me...lol. Very much appreciated. 

Hopefully someone at Affinity might get a heads up about this and add a fix to their next update. Cheers