DamienB Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I take photos in a game called, iRacing, and I have to edit them. The problem I am having is getting the motion blur to affect the ground under the shadows without affecting the shadows itself. I was told Photoshop does this with ease, so I know it's possible I just don't know if Affinity can do it and how. Does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Motion blur with Mask? https://affinity.help/photo/English.lproj/pages/Filters/filter_motionBlur.html Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienB Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pšenda said: Motion blur with Mask? https://affinity.help/photo/English.lproj/pages/Filters/filter_motionBlur.html I don't understand. I'm pretty sure the photos you're looking at are masked. It's just one I didn't mask in the shadows and theft them as background that's why the shadows are blurred. Edited January 1, 2022 by DamienB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Are you applying a Live Filter Motion Blur or the destructive one on the Filter Menu? You are aware the white thumbnails on the left end of adjustment and live filter layers are masks right? If you do not want the Motion Blur applied to the shadows, paint them out. Just use a black paint brush, make sure you have the Motion Blur Live Filter's thumbnail selected in the layers panel, then paint over the shadow areas. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienB Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, Ron P. said: Are you applying a Live Filter Motion Blur or the destructive one on the Filter Menu? You are aware the white thumbnails on the left end of adjustment and live filter layers are masks right? If you do not want the Motion Blur applied to the shadows, paint them out. Just use a black paint brush, make sure you have the Motion Blur Live Filter's thumbnail selected in the layers panel, then paint over the shadow areas. I'm using Live Filter Motion Blur at the bottom of the layers tab. Could you please specify what you mean by painting out? I tried inpaint, but that doesn't work. I could erase shadows without erasing the ground with it. I'm pretty clueless, will probably need to be explained with good detail. Thanks for your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, DamienB said: Could you please specify what you mean by painting out? I tried inpaint, but that doesn't work. Live Filters have builtin masks. So if you select one in the Layers panel, you can use the Paint Brush Tool to paint on it, just like it was any other mask layer. Use black to paint out (remove) the effect of the filter, white to paint it back in, or anything in between to partially remove it. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Here's a video tutorial on Using Mask Layers. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnyb Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 hours ago, DamienB said: I take photos in a game called, iRacing, and I have to edit them. The problem I am having is getting the motion blur to affect the ground under the shadows without affecting the shadows itself. I was told Photoshop does this with ease, so I know it's possible I just don't know if Affinity can do it and how. Does anyone know? Just apply your motion blur filter as desired, select the filter layer, click on the Blend Range icon (the cog in the upper right corner of the layer palette), and drop the shadows to zero or adjust just as you would a curves layer. Quote 2021 16” Macbook Pro w/ M1 Max 10c cpu /24c gpu, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Ventura 13.6 2018 11" iPad Pro w/ A12X cpu/gpu, 256 GB, iPadOS 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) This task is medium complex when you need a perfect result. The source image needs to be separated into 2 areas: the car, all background removed the racetrack / background and old shadow then add a motion blur filter between 1 and 2. this uses a simplification: we blur both the non-blurred shadow and the already blurry background. You will immediately notice a problem: the blur will catch wrong colors: at the back of the car, we need to add a fill created from the street left of the car. A rectangular selection, copied, stretched and moved under the car, will do. at the front / bottom of the car we need to add a vertical gradient filled curve, black on top, dark gray sampled from tarmac on bottom. These curve should be placed below the fron / bottom of the car, and roughly follow the curvature of the old shadow. There will be other easier methods to create a similar result. My post tries to explain the principle approach without shortcuts. racecar shadow.afphoto Edited January 2, 2022 by NotMyFault Revised version of attachments Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienB Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) I think there confusion with me posting already motion edited photos. I don't want to know how to correct those that are motion edited already. So if someone could be so kind explain to me the steps to take with one that I start from scratch? Also I tried using the paint brush tool over a mask, if just paints black or white. It's not doing what the video shows. Edited January 2, 2022 by DamienB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienB Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 hours ago, NotMyFault said: This task is medium complex when you need a perfect result. The source image needs to be separated into 2 areas: the car, all background removed the racetrack / background and old shadow then add a motion blur filter between 1 and 2. this uses a simplification: we blur both the non-blurred shadow and the already blurry background. You will immediately notice a problem: the blur will catch wrong colors: at the back of the car, we need to add a fill created from the street left of the car. A rectangular selection, copied, stretched and moved under the car, will do. at the front / bottom of the car we need to add a vertical gradient filled curve, black on top, dark gray sampled from tarmac on bottom. These curve should be placed below the fron / bottom of the car, and roughly follow the curvature of the old shadow. There will be other easier methods to create a similar result. My post tries to explain the principle approach without shortcuts. racecar shadow.afphoto 12.01 MB · 0 downloads What you're saying is to make two separate crops, the car and the shadow; So that I can use motion blur on the background and the shadow separately without affecting the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, DamienB said: What you're saying is to make two separate crops, the car and the shadow; So that I can use motion blur on the background and the shadow separately without affecting the car? Kind of. Basically, you need only the car, as a selected / masked copy of the original image. Then, you need to replace (delete / fill) the area covered by the car with suitable background for the blurring step. You can re-use the first mask for this purpose. My first tutorial will work for the non-blurred image, too. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 the car cutout: a few helper (patches from road / shadow / car to bring the correct colors "under" the car cutout: This atop the original image, and a motion blur added: finally the car cutout on top: a video explaining the principle method: Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienB Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NotMyFault said: the car cutout: a few helper (patches from road / shadow / car to bring the correct colors "under" the car cutout: This atop the original image, and a motion blur added: finally the car cutout on top: a video explaining the principle method: Oh I know how to do what you're saying. You haven't answered my question because your edit has the shadows blurred too. The only reason why yours isn't blurred like mine is because I used a ton of motion blur. My question was to have zero blur on the shadow, but under the shadow the ground is still moving. Edit: Also my paint brush doesn't work, I make a mask layer and I can't do anything, either nothing happens or I'm painting a black or white color on my photo. Edited January 3, 2022 by DamienB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardMH Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I think to do what you want to do, duplicate the layer twice, blur the bottom layer. Turn off the top layer. On the middle layer mask the shadows and invert (so the bottom layer comes through just in the shadows). That will blur just the shadows but leave their edges sharp which I figure is what you want. Can then cut out the car and shadow, blur the top layer and put the car on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, DamienB said: Oh I know how to do what you're saying. You haven't answered my question because your edit has the shadows blurred too. The only reason why yours isn't blurred like mine is because I used a ton of motion blur. My question was to have zero blur on the shadow, but under the shadow the ground is still moving. Edit: Also my paint brush doesn't work, I make a mask layer and I can't do anything, either nothing happens or I'm painting a black or white color on my photo. If you need the edge of the shadow sharp, but the racetrack blurred, limited to the part under the shadow: make a selection of the shadow. add live motion blur filter, adjust radius to taste That is basically all, but you will face the issue i explained before: The blur will catch unwanted colors at the edges, and you need to backfill them. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I'd be interested in seeing the tutorial/explanation of how photoshop does the ops question with ease? NotMyFault 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Has probably something to do with the path blur tool, that can have multiple vectors with speed and shape controls, which, after selection of area to be processed (and making it available for smart filters), is easy to use to create complex blurs in one go. (EDIT: On the other hand, as far as I have understood OP's problem correctly, the specified goal should be achievable by handling the motion blur ilve effect layer directly with the desired masking brush using shades between black and white to adjust the effect, or disable it altogether, at parts where it is not wanted, and I do not think that this can be done any easier way using Photoshop -- meaning that it can be done equally easily in both apps.) firstdefence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisbon Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 5:19 PM, DamienB said: ...The problem I am having is getting the motion blur to affect the ground under the shadows without affecting the shadows itself... Does anyone know? I think so @DamianB. You need 3 layers. Bottom layer: just the track. With the freehand selection tool make a selection around the car and go to Edit > Fill > Inpainting If necessary, repeat this process until you get a clean track. I took the shadows from the grass. Just a personal preference. The patch tool can also help. In the end you can add motion blur. Middle Layer: Car + shadow Top Layer: Just the car Lastly, fix the shadow. The next steps will be ALL IN THE MIDDLE LAYER (Car + Shadow) 1) Better blending... Change blending mode to multiply 2) Too dark... reduce opacity to 80% (Edit: Maybe 85%) 3) Too much texture... add a dust & scratches adjustment layer (2px 4%) 4) Shadow too saturated... add a vibrance adjustment layer (Saturation -30%) 5) Edges of the shadow too harsh... With the mask selected, apply gaussian blur (2px) RacingCar.afphoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIPJIP Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Nice. Works well Lisbon. Lisbon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisbon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 18 hours ago, JIPJIP said: Nice. Works well Lisbon. Thank you for your words @JIPJIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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