Jonny Spaceman Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) I have a Xerox VersaLink C600, newish and full of toner. Printing with colour management document and printer both on sRGB IEC61966-2.1 Printed images are awful, dark, drab and very red, nothing like my photos are showing on Affinity Photo I know printing stuff is a big tricky and it's not a fault with the software and I haven't read up on Affinity or done any tutorials, but I though I'd throw the question out there in case I am doing something stupid and there's a quick fix or someone has had the same problem and solved it. So, just added this bit, if I print a JPG photo taken on my bottom of the range Samsung mobile by double clicking on a file in windows file manager and clicking on "print" it comes out wonderful, as show below. And if I try and print a photo off my new (too expensive) canon D90 camera using Affinity, my new state of the art photo editing software, the print comes out absolutely dreadful. And if I export a JPG from Affinity and print it directly from windows I just get a blank A4 sheet. Any help out there? Edited December 11, 2021 by Jonny Spaceman Added a comparison print from windows photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Jonny Spaceman said: And if I export a JPG from Affinity and print it directly from windows I just get a blank A4 sheet. Well, please try to get a correct printout from windows apps before trying printing from Photo. Does the driver offer an option to print a test page? https://www.colormanagement.org/en/testimages.html Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Pauls Posted December 13, 2021 Staff Share Posted December 13, 2021 As BofG suggests switch to 'performed by printer' especially if your documents are sRGB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Pauls Posted December 13, 2021 Staff Share Posted December 13, 2021 typically printers default to that workflow and handle it very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 hours ago, BofG said: Are you aware that Affinity can only handle RGB profiles? As I understand it, in the Mac versions CMYK is supported, but only for Postscript printers, possibly because on Macs Affinity uses the system level print service & the drivers for them. But I could easily be wrong about that, & I have no idea if it applies in any way to the Windows versions. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 18 hours ago, R C-R said: As I understand it, in the Mac versions CMYK is supported, but only for Postscript printers Would be great if this were true. A couple service providers I have use poo poo'd Affinity for the reason " if you can't print out a solid CMYK colour bar it aint pro". I need to print CMYK proofs for clients and my only workable options are making a PDF and printing via Adobe acrobat pro 9 and Adobe Acrobat reader, tried loads of other PDF options, and I hate to say it, but can only currently get accurate output from Adobe (unless some other forum users can advise on further workable options?)- Initially I was shocked to find (after a load of tests) that Affinity only supported RGB - but still hope we get the ability to print accurate proofs direct from Affinity in the future CLC 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 8 hours ago, BofG said: It's the same on both systems, there have been a few threads in the past of people testing on PostScript printers, the CMYK is never correctly handled. At least for Macs, wouldn't that depend on the print driver being used? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 22 hours ago, R C-R said: At least for Macs, wouldn't that depend on the print driver being used? No - I must have wasted days running CMYK proof targets to fiery rip and my xerox 6180DN via Affinity print system and looks as though it pre-rasterises everything (including all vectors) and converts to RGB then it hits the RIP and is converted back to CMYK and is unable to rasterise the vector information to the printers full capability - resulting in a total botch of a proof - no problem running from InDesign, even going back to Quark 4 and Freehand works as expected - just hope it gets sorted in the future? CLC 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dazmondo77 said: No - I must have wasted days running CMYK proof targets to fiery rip and my xerox 6180DN via Affinity print system... What I mean about 'depending on the print driver' is there is no Affinity print system as such, just the one provided by the macOS. Do you know if there is a print driver installed for your Xerox 6180DN on your Mac? If not, then I don't think Affinity can send CMYK to it. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, R C-R said: Do you know if there is a print driver installed for your Xerox 6180DN on your Mac? If not, then I don't think Affinity can send CMYK to it. Yes - rock solid running CMYK from other apps that support CMYK I can still run decent proofs off via Acrobat, but expected (back in 2014) Affinity Designer (and later Photo and Pub), being marketed as pro graphic design apps to be able to print pure CMYK to a printer via a printer driver that expects CMYK CLC 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Affinitys print dialog is prob my biggest gripe with the suite, as just printing a text document set up CMYK with all text set to solid black, direct from Publisher is a total joke - just ran a page off this morning, as I find it convenient to use a DTP app to print from!?!?!? - looking through a linen tester, it looks like even a page of solid black text that's set from the print dialog to force solid black, first gets rasterised and converted to RGB before it hits the printers RIP, which then, instead of receiving solid black vector information to rasterise at the printers max resolution, the RIP receives an RGB picture which is then converted back to CMYK and then throws away the CMY information resulting in a really poor quality page of text that is made up of an halftone dot instead of nice crisp solid black - totally unacceptable - I've never come across another app that prints this bad - even text edit on the mac can send a page of nice sharp black text to a postscript printer. I know the official 'can't be arsed' response is 'make a pdf and print from acrobat'. CLC 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Spaceman Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 Thank s everyone for helping me, I'm super busy at the moment, hopeful I can read through all your advice and figure out what I'm doing wrong over Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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