MIKE3 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) This is more of a general question rather than one directly related to the software; but I'm trying to design a transparent business card for myself and am currently wondering if it's as simple as setting the transparency of the colors then uploading the design somewhere to have it printed, or are there more steps required to achieving this? I am using Affinity Designer and cannot find any information about this on the web. Also, I only see examples of transparent business cards with solid cards. Are gradients something that will come out fine on something like this as well or is it not a good idea? Edited December 9, 2021 by MIKE3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 If you mean transparent business cards printed on clear stock material so the card itself is transparent, why do you want to set the transparency of the colors of whatever is printed on them to anything other than 100% opaque? IOW, do you want to be able to see through the text or whatever else is printed on the card? If not, could you explain a bit more about what you want to do? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE3 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 Thanks for replying. I'm actually interested in both types of design, opaque color and semi-transparent color because I have seen examples online that don't look too shabby. I'm just not sure yet which I would like to do for myself. If I get to a point where a client is also interested in having me do this for them, I would like a good grasp on how to achieve both ways. So would a transparent business card with opaque color not require anything beyond say leaving the background empty in the design process? Or if I did want all the color to be transparent as well, what would need to be done for that, if anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, MIKE3 said: So would a transparent business card with opaque color not require anything beyond say leaving the background empty in the design process? Yes You can use opaque colours, semi-transparent colours (e.g. 50% opacity) or gradients. Bear in mind semi-transparent only really comes into effect if the object covers another object or of a low enough opacity to allow light to shine through them Which techniques you decide to use for specific parts of the designs, will determine the ultimate sucess or failure of the design Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 hours ago, MIKE3 said: Or if I did want all the color to be transparent as well, what would need to be done for that, if anything? ???? Practically there are not actual transparent printing inks so that the text would show the underlying card-stock. Ink on paper covers up the paper, Ink on glass/acetate/plastic/celluloid makes those areas covered by the ink no longer see through. Having said that I am also fairly certain that there are transparent inks. I know of no readily available source for home/office printers if they in fact exist for them. They would be a commercial printing specialty. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE3 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 That's what I would do is have them printed at a commercial business with the proper equipment. I just saw a lot of images of examples showing all the color being somewhat transparent as well, like the image I found online below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 You would then need to ask that house if they want the Blue colour at 100% opacity in your file or some other value. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Actually having thought about it, that is all opaque ink. There is no transparency through to the paper (Still too darn early here on the wet coast). So the transparency on the Blue will be controlled by the layer opacity in Designer, Photo or Publisher. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE3 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 So if I were to attempt and draft something like this up, I can simply change the colors to any % opacity then export it as a .png in CMYK and the result should come out as I intended? Second question is, in theory if I were to make the background a semi-transparent white would that create a frosted look on the business card or is that mostly dependent on the kind of material that the card is printed on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, MIKE3 said: Second question is, in theory if I were to make the background a semi-transparent white would that create a frosted look on the business card or is that mostly dependent on the kind of material that the card is printed on? The kind of material that the card is printed on. If you want the cards printed on transparent stock, you should talk to the printing company about the best choice of inks & how they want the file sent to them. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, MIKE3 said: Second question is, in theory if I were to make the background a semi-transparent white would that create a frosted look on the business card or is that mostly dependent on the kind of material that the card is printed on? Only and biggest problem with this is that you'll need to go to a commercial printer because home / office printers do not have white ink. Having said that the answer to your question is: Yes you would get a 'frosted' look. Provided you had a dark card stock or a transparent stock to print on. You would also need to make a Spot colour swatch. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Having said that the answer to your question is: Yes you would get a 'frosted' look. To me, a 'frosted look' means what is sometimes called a satin finish -- a slightly rough surface that breaks up reflected light so there are no specular reflections -- IOW, a slightly dull surface finish. If that is what is wanted, I don't think the effect can be achieved using just semi-transparent white ink. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V23.0 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Actually having had a bit of a thought about this you might be better off using a Frosted Card stock instead. I am sure there are some paper companies making such stuff. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKE3 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 Good stuff. It's hard finding this info out there but that helps a bunch. First time I saw a transparent business card in use was the company I work for so I'm very curious about the possibilities and limitations with creating designs on these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BofG Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 There's a bit of misinformation above (based on perfectly reasonable assumptions, but ones that are incorrect). Your file transparency likely won't be a match for the ink transparency, unless the printing company is doing pre-press work to compensate. Ink isn't 100% opaque, try print a bright colour on white paper then on a dark or coloured stock and you'll see different results. The underlying substrate affects the end result (there would be no need for profiles otherwise). Ideally you would be provided with an ICC profile for the print on the clear cards. You may have to accept that what you see on your design is simply "close" to what the output will be. DGee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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