tdellaringa Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 I've got my document pretty well set up and things look great other than widows, orphans and some runts showing up. I have a background in graphic design/doc publishing (although it has been years) so I know enough to play with the flow settings, but I have been having a real hard time with one issue. I have set prevent widows and orphans in my main body style. In general it works, but as you can see in the image, I get this issue where I have a blank line on the bottom of a page (on most pages, that last baseline has text). I suppose it could be because I am using baseline grid? I have some "tight" styles made, as well as styles that can push a new section to a next page, but I'm not sure how to fix this - or if there is a fix for it. Possibly I am being too picky. On the other hand, professionally typeset books don't have this problem that I can tell. Quote
walt.farrell Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Partly it may be due to the Baseline Grid. And partly it may be due to the spacing in general, since you seem to be "double spacing". And partly it may be due to the Keep and Prevent options you've chosen in your Text Style, or in the Paragraph panel, for the Flow Options: Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Old Bruce Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, tdellaringa said: I have set prevent widows and orphans in my main body style. In general it works, but as you can see in the image, I get this issue where I have a blank line on the bottom of a page (on most pages, that last baseline has text). I suppose it could be because I am using baseline grid? Simple arithmetic. It is impossible to have a three line paragraph split into two two line parts. You can set the text frame to spread the paragraphs out evenly from top to bottom (vertical justification) but I believe that there are some weird bugs with that feature which will cause problems. There is the option to override and use additional leading on the short page. Finally you could just ignore it. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
tdellaringa Posted November 28, 2021 Author Posted November 28, 2021 Thanks for the input guys. I'll play around. Quote
Andy05 Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 What Old Bruce said. If you'd add one line to the first page's bottom, that'd be an orphan, which you try to avoid... So, the app is doing the right thing and moves the line/paragraph to the next page. Quote »There are three responses to a piece of design: yes, no, and wow. Wow is the one to aim for.« Milton Glaser (1929 - 2020)
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