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Hi,

My need is simple, i have a pixelated picture and i need to encrease resolution for uploading it on a website.

There is https://imgupscaler.com/ but the picture is scalled 80% uniform and 20% irregular.

If Affinity Photo makes upscalling easy and professionaly, i'm in.

I just need the steps to how to do an upscale on Affininty Photo (baby steps) and a sample (end product), using the picture attached.

Thank you

 

P.S. The picture is a sample (how it looks like) of a grease

IRIX_L_130-2.png

Edited by ValentinNicolae
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Welcome to the forum @ValentinNicolae

That is a poor image to upscale, but what do you want it upscaling to?

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Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

That is a poor image to upscale, but what do you want it upscaling to?

@firstdefence If you mean the size, around 4 times that it is now.

Here it is how is shown on product page, on the developing website

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And here it is how it looks on product search preview, and it is ok.
On the right, is needed the upscalled version.

image.png.1f0b7209308ff6e43d60202b0ed5391d.png

 

Hope i provided the needed information.

Thank you

 

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Posted (edited)

There are 33 different pictures like the one i've showed you.

I really prefer a program, because i will needed it in the future, for future projects.

Photoshop has this option, can't remember the steps, but is not just "Resize" and done. So i thougth Affinity Photo has it too, i participated in Beta release early on and have it to my heart.

Anyway, if Affinity Photo can do it would be great.

Thank you

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Edited by ValentinNicolae
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To be honest, Affinity Photo is not the right tool for your task.

There are other tools specifically designed to upscale using AI. The forum rules don’t allow to give direct links to competitors. 

 

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Looks somehow to me like the OP doesn't have bought any high res versions of those images and so might have just taken over lubrication thumb pics from the net. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for him to upscale those at all.

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Posted
1 hour ago, v_kyr said:

Looks somehow to me like the OP doesn't have bought any high res versions of those images and so might have just taken over lubrication thumb pics from the net.

Which brings up licensing rights for the images, but I could not find any info about that on the site.

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Posted
44 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Which brings up licensing rights for the images, but I could not find any info about that on the site.

Then look elsewhere ...

the one says "License Free Stock Photo Number: 1068947522", the other one tells "standard licence".

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Posted
49 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Then look elsewhere ...

Are you sure it is the same "IRIX L 130-2" image?

In particular, the istockphoto link shows a watermarked image with a hard to see "By Getty Images" below the larger "iStock" text.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Are you sure it is the same "IRIX L 130-2" image?

Sure, do a  https://images.google.com/  search:

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Posted
39 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Sure, do a  https://images.google.com/  search:

What is that supposed to do other than show the usual iStock, Shutterstock, etc. images which are not free to use? ("Royalty free" does not generally mean free to use without paying a fee.)

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Posted
13 minutes ago, R C-R said:

What is that supposed to do other than show the usual iStock, Shutterstock, etc. images which are not free to use?

It answers your silly question if it is the same image!

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Posted
3 hours ago, v_kyr said:

It answers your silly question if it is the same image!

I am asking about the source of the image & the possible licensing restrictions on its use.

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Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, v_kyr said:

Looks somehow to me like the OP doesn't have bought any high res versions of those images and so might have just taken over lubrication thumb pics from the net. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for him to upscale those at all.

:) i laughed a bit

You deviate from the question "Is Affinity Photo suited for upscalling the sample photo?".
I needed a direct answer (YES - with proof or NO) but yours is indirect "buy the pictures (because Affinity Photo can't do that).

I will answer your ethical dilemma:
Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer.
As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products.

I hope you pause for a moment for extra concerns.

This post is about the Affinity Photo program and the incentive to buy it.

Best wishes

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42 minutes ago, ValentinNicolae said:

I will answer your ethical dilemma:
Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer.
As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products.

There's an ethical dilemn since photos are usually sold depending of their size and the amount or print copies and/or the type of media (print, web, video...) and it can also include for a limited time (= needing to buy again the picture after a few years, by example).

Second point, what some site call "free", is only part of their catalogue they allow their usual customers already paying other pictures or an entry fee or a subscription to have free access to some images, not the best, not the worst of the stock... It's like a promotion: having 3 for the price of 2, it doesn't mean the third you choose is free of copyrights, just that you get a special price.

 

About your PDF, it's possible your client paid for the print usage (possibly while paying the designer of the PDF, it's common, it would explain he can't provide originals), not for the web usage.

Posted
1 hour ago, ValentinNicolae said:

:) i laughed a bit

You deviate from the question "Is Affinity Photo suited for upscalling the sample photo?".
I needed a direct answer (YES - with proof or NO) but yours is indirect "buy the pictures (because Affinity Photo can't do that).

I will answer your ethical dilemma:
Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer.
As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products.

I hope you pause for a moment for extra concerns.

This post is about the Affinity Photo program and the incentive to buy it.

Best wishes

I too, since you got already very qualified and true answers above from the co-posters. Affinity Photo itself won't do any magic on a very low res, pixelated, poor image here, when upscaling 4x in the usual manner the result will look as bad as the initial small size low res applied one. So you have to use some other strategies for upscaling here, like using an app which is more specialized on such purposes and afterwards do some finetuning in Photo.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ValentinNicolae said:

If you want to help, download sample picture, upscalle it 4x with noise reduction to maximum, using Affinity Photo, and upload it to help me see the results.

Thank you

Ok since you asked for I'll tell you the way I would instead try to manage that upscaling task. First at all and as already said before by firstdefence, your initial image in (251 x 234 Pixel) is indeed bad as a starting point here. It's too small and unsharp, also looks very washed out. With a bigger (let's say at least 509 x 492 Pixel) and sharper/clearer one, chances are much better to scale it up in some acceptable manner for your website usages.

Here in short what I did instead in order to get a better result of that (2 different approaches)...

  1. Take a bigger and better initial image, rework it slightly, aka apply some lighting, contrast, sharpening etc. adjustments if needed, then try out different resize methods.
  2. In case you get a quite half good acceptable result, throw it into some good bitmap-to-vector tracer (that image type is something vectorizers should be able to work good with). You would then get a vectorized version (a SVG, or PDF) of yout bitmap image, which you can load into Affinity Photo and scale it up even better then to your needs. Afterwards save it as an PNG/JPG etc. aka an image format you can work on your website with. Note that SVG might also be a good option for reusage on your website then!

giveit-a-try.png.aab8bb55f03b780d60c7137794ac3b88.png

And how a generated SVG vector graphics out of that woold look like instead ...

give-it-a-try-vector.jpg.ea15f724716e2516d99fc1b7087fa32d.jpg

Vector files:

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Posted
2 hours ago, ValentinNicolae said:

Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer.
As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products.

Wouldn't it be easier just to ask the manufacturer to supply hi-res copies of the photos? 

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Posted
5 hours ago, PaulEC said:

Wouldn't it be easier just to ask the manufacturer to supply hi-res copies of the photos? 

Or at least ask the manufacturer if their license permits them to supply higher resolution versions to their distributors, or if they are aware of any other 'downstream' usage limits.

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On 11/27/2021 at 12:51 PM, v_kyr said:

Ok since you asked for I'll tell you the way I would instead try to manage that upscaling task. First at all and as already said before by firstdefence, your initial image in (251 x 234 Pixel) is indeed bad as a starting point here. It's too small and unsharp, also looks very washed out. With a bigger (let's say at least 509 x 492 Pixel) and sharper/clearer one, chances are much better to scale it up in some acceptable manner for your website usages.

Here in short what I did instead in order to get a better result of that (2 different approaches)...

  1. Take a bigger and better initial image, rework it slightly, aka apply some lighting, contrast, sharpening etc. adjustments if needed, then try out different resize methods.
  2. In case you get a quite half good acceptable result, throw it into some good bitmap-to-vector tracer (that image type is something vectorizers should be able to work good with). You would then get a vectorized version (a SVG, or PDF) of yout bitmap image, which you can load into Affinity Photo and scale it up even better then to your needs. Afterwards save it as an PNG/JPG etc. aka an image format you can work on your website with. Note that SVG might also be a good option for reusage on your website then!

giveit-a-try.png.aab8bb55f03b780d60c7137794ac3b88.png

And how a generated SVG vector graphics out of that woold look like instead ...

give-it-a-try-vector.jpg.ea15f724716e2516d99fc1b7087fa32d.jpg

Vector files:

Tried to reproduce the steps, with Inkscape, but could not even do a proper "bitmap-to-vector tracer".
I am a beginner at this and need baby steps explanation, if willing to help.

Posted
On 11/27/2021 at 1:09 PM, PaulEC said:

Wouldn't it be easier just to ask the manufacturer to supply hi-res copies of the photos? 

Done that, still waiting for them :)

Who knows, if Santa Claus exists, maybe will get them by Christmas.

From 3 big companies, our suppliers, only one gave us all media files that we needed. Some do not share because they do not want to. Never met the reason "copyright issues". I refer to product pictures, made inhouse, that are not shared to official distributors because "we do not share"

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