ValentinNicolae Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Hi, My need is simple, i have a pixelated picture and i need to encrease resolution for uploading it on a website. There is https://imgupscaler.com/ but the picture is scalled 80% uniform and 20% irregular. If Affinity Photo makes upscalling easy and professionaly, i'm in. I just need the steps to how to do an upscale on Affininty Photo (baby steps) and a sample (end product), using the picture attached. Thank you P.S. The picture is a sample (how it looks like) of a grease Edited November 26, 2021 by ValentinNicolae Quote
firstdefence Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Welcome to the forum @ValentinNicolae That is a poor image to upscale, but what do you want it upscaling to? Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
ValentinNicolae Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, firstdefence said: That is a poor image to upscale, but what do you want it upscaling to? @firstdefence If you mean the size, around 4 times that it is now. Here it is how is shown on product page, on the developing website And here it is how it looks on product search preview, and it is ok. On the right, is needed the upscalled version. Hope i provided the needed information. Thank you Edited November 26, 2021 by ValentinNicolae Quote
carl123 Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Larger versions are available to purchase here https://www.123rf.com/photo_104446549_close-up-of-grease-for-machinery-lubrication.html Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
ValentinNicolae Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) There are 33 different pictures like the one i've showed you. I really prefer a program, because i will needed it in the future, for future projects. Photoshop has this option, can't remember the steps, but is not just "Resize" and done. So i thougth Affinity Photo has it too, i participated in Beta release early on and have it to my heart. Anyway, if Affinity Photo can do it would be great. Thank you Edited November 26, 2021 by ValentinNicolae Quote
NotMyFault Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 To be honest, Affinity Photo is not the right tool for your task. There are other tools specifically designed to upscale using AI. The forum rules don’t allow to give direct links to competitors. ValentinNicolae 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
v_kyr Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Looks somehow to me like the OP doesn't have bought any high res versions of those images and so might have just taken over lubrication thumb pics from the net. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for him to upscale those at all. Wosven and PaulEC 2 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
R C-R Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, v_kyr said: Looks somehow to me like the OP doesn't have bought any high res versions of those images and so might have just taken over lubrication thumb pics from the net. Which brings up licensing rights for the images, but I could not find any info about that on the site. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
v_kyr Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, R C-R said: Which brings up licensing rights for the images, but I could not find any info about that on the site. Then look elsewhere ... https://www.istockphoto.com/en/photo/grease-texture-for-machinery-lubrication-gm984115118-267080327 https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/close-grease-machinery-lubrication-1068947522 the one says "License Free Stock Photo Number: 1068947522", the other one tells "standard licence". Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
R C-R Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 49 minutes ago, v_kyr said: Then look elsewhere ... Are you sure it is the same "IRIX L 130-2" image? In particular, the istockphoto link shows a watermarked image with a hard to see "By Getty Images" below the larger "iStock" text. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
v_kyr Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, R C-R said: Are you sure it is the same "IRIX L 130-2" image? Sure, do a https://images.google.com/ search: Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
R C-R Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 39 minutes ago, v_kyr said: Sure, do a https://images.google.com/ search: What is that supposed to do other than show the usual iStock, Shutterstock, etc. images which are not free to use? ("Royalty free" does not generally mean free to use without paying a fee.) Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
v_kyr Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, R C-R said: What is that supposed to do other than show the usual iStock, Shutterstock, etc. images which are not free to use? It answers your silly question if it is the same image! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
R C-R Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, v_kyr said: It answers your silly question if it is the same image! I am asking about the source of the image & the possible licensing restrictions on its use. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
ValentinNicolae Posted November 27, 2021 Author Posted November 27, 2021 12 hours ago, NotMyFault said: To be honest, Affinity Photo is not the right tool for your task. Thank you Quote
ValentinNicolae Posted November 27, 2021 Author Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, v_kyr said: Looks somehow to me like the OP doesn't have bought any high res versions of those images and so might have just taken over lubrication thumb pics from the net. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need for him to upscale those at all. i laughed a bit You deviate from the question "Is Affinity Photo suited for upscalling the sample photo?". I needed a direct answer (YES - with proof or NO) but yours is indirect "buy the pictures (because Affinity Photo can't do that). I will answer your ethical dilemma: Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer. As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products. I hope you pause for a moment for extra concerns. This post is about the Affinity Photo program and the incentive to buy it. Best wishes Edited November 27, 2021 by ValentinNicolae Quote
ValentinNicolae Posted November 27, 2021 Author Posted November 27, 2021 11 hours ago, v_kyr said: If you want to help, download sample picture, upscalle it 4x with noise reduction to maximum, using Affinity Photo, and upload it to help me see the results. Thank you Quote
RichardMH Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 FWIW. Plus a bit of frequency separation. ValentinNicolae 1 Quote
Wosven Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, ValentinNicolae said: I will answer your ethical dilemma: Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer. As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products. There's an ethical dilemn since photos are usually sold depending of their size and the amount or print copies and/or the type of media (print, web, video...) and it can also include for a limited time (= needing to buy again the picture after a few years, by example). Second point, what some site call "free", is only part of their catalogue they allow their usual customers already paying other pictures or an entry fee or a subscription to have free access to some images, not the best, not the worst of the stock... It's like a promotion: having 3 for the price of 2, it doesn't mean the third you choose is free of copyrights, just that you get a special price. About your PDF, it's possible your client paid for the print usage (possibly while paying the designer of the PDF, it's common, it would explain he can't provide originals), not for the web usage. v_kyr 1 Quote
v_kyr Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ValentinNicolae said: i laughed a bit You deviate from the question "Is Affinity Photo suited for upscalling the sample photo?". I needed a direct answer (YES - with proof or NO) but yours is indirect "buy the pictures (because Affinity Photo can't do that). I will answer your ethical dilemma: Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer. As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products. I hope you pause for a moment for extra concerns. This post is about the Affinity Photo program and the incentive to buy it. Best wishes I too, since you got already very qualified and true answers above from the co-posters. Affinity Photo itself won't do any magic on a very low res, pixelated, poor image here, when upscaling 4x in the usual manner the result will look as bad as the initial small size low res applied one. So you have to use some other strategies for upscaling here, like using an app which is more specialized on such purposes and afterwards do some finetuning in Photo. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
v_kyr Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ValentinNicolae said: If you want to help, download sample picture, upscalle it 4x with noise reduction to maximum, using Affinity Photo, and upload it to help me see the results. Thank you Ok since you asked for I'll tell you the way I would instead try to manage that upscaling task. First at all and as already said before by firstdefence, your initial image in (251 x 234 Pixel) is indeed bad as a starting point here. It's too small and unsharp, also looks very washed out. With a bigger (let's say at least 509 x 492 Pixel) and sharper/clearer one, chances are much better to scale it up in some acceptable manner for your website usages. Here in short what I did instead in order to get a better result of that (2 different approaches)... Take a bigger and better initial image, rework it slightly, aka apply some lighting, contrast, sharpening etc. adjustments if needed, then try out different resize methods. In case you get a quite half good acceptable result, throw it into some good bitmap-to-vector tracer (that image type is something vectorizers should be able to work good with). You would then get a vectorized version (a SVG, or PDF) of yout bitmap image, which you can load into Affinity Photo and scale it up even better then to your needs. Afterwards save it as an PNG/JPG etc. aka an image format you can work on your website with. Note that SVG might also be a good option for reusage on your website then! And how a generated SVG vector graphics out of that woold look like instead ... Vector files: giveit-a-try.svg giveit-a-try.pdf ValentinNicolae 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
PaulEC Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, ValentinNicolae said: Those pictures were extracted from a high resolution catalogue, a .pdf, that belongs to the manufacturer of the grease (and i presume it respects the copyright rights) and was sent to authorised distribuitors of the manufacturer. As an authorised distributor of those greases, we use the catalogue and its content to build a website and promote manufacturer's products. Wouldn't it be easier just to ask the manufacturer to supply hi-res copies of the photos? Wosven and firstdefence 2 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 11 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad "Beware of false knowledge, it is more dangerous than ignorance." (GBS)
R C-R Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 5 hours ago, PaulEC said: Wouldn't it be easier just to ask the manufacturer to supply hi-res copies of the photos? Or at least ask the manufacturer if their license permits them to supply higher resolution versions to their distributors, or if they are aware of any other 'downstream' usage limits. PaulEC 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
ValentinNicolae Posted December 8, 2021 Author Posted December 8, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 12:51 PM, v_kyr said: Ok since you asked for I'll tell you the way I would instead try to manage that upscaling task. First at all and as already said before by firstdefence, your initial image in (251 x 234 Pixel) is indeed bad as a starting point here. It's too small and unsharp, also looks very washed out. With a bigger (let's say at least 509 x 492 Pixel) and sharper/clearer one, chances are much better to scale it up in some acceptable manner for your website usages. Here in short what I did instead in order to get a better result of that (2 different approaches)... Take a bigger and better initial image, rework it slightly, aka apply some lighting, contrast, sharpening etc. adjustments if needed, then try out different resize methods. In case you get a quite half good acceptable result, throw it into some good bitmap-to-vector tracer (that image type is something vectorizers should be able to work good with). You would then get a vectorized version (a SVG, or PDF) of yout bitmap image, which you can load into Affinity Photo and scale it up even better then to your needs. Afterwards save it as an PNG/JPG etc. aka an image format you can work on your website with. Note that SVG might also be a good option for reusage on your website then! And how a generated SVG vector graphics out of that woold look like instead ... Vector files: giveit-a-try.svg giveit-a-try.pdf Tried to reproduce the steps, with Inkscape, but could not even do a proper "bitmap-to-vector tracer". I am a beginner at this and need baby steps explanation, if willing to help. Quote
ValentinNicolae Posted December 8, 2021 Author Posted December 8, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 1:09 PM, PaulEC said: Wouldn't it be easier just to ask the manufacturer to supply hi-res copies of the photos? Done that, still waiting for them Who knows, if Santa Claus exists, maybe will get them by Christmas. From 3 big companies, our suppliers, only one gave us all media files that we needed. Some do not share because they do not want to. Never met the reason "copyright issues". I refer to product pictures, made inhouse, that are not shared to official distributors because "we do not share" Quote
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