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I'm placing my novel text that has character styles on most pages. In my initial tests, making my paragraph style and then applying the style kills all my character styles. Is there a way I can keep the character styling when applying a paragraph style?

Note, the character styling is coming in from the word doc import. I'm starting with that raw text and then making my document styles.

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Is this a *.docx file you are using? Or is it a *.rtf file?

Are the Character Styles set up so they are Based On [No Style]? I restrict the use of the Character Styles to use on a few individual characters or a few words here and there. A couple of thousand words may have only a dozen cases of words or characters with a Character Style.

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It's a .docx file that has been exported from Mac pages (where I made some corrections), but originally the character styles were applied in Scrivener, where the manuscript was exported from.

To be clear I am talking about the raw, imported text. It has character styles only from the .docx - I have not applied anything. So the font is 12-point with things like italics applied. 

Then I choose a block of text and apply my body para style and boom, italics all gone. 

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If you right-click on a Paragraph Text Style in the Text Styles panel, I think you'll see an option something like "apply style x and keep character formatting". That may be what you want for your situation.

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I'm actually trying that, and it's keeping the character style but not seeming to apply the actual style - like the font should go to 9pt, but it stays at 12pt. It's like it doesn't get applied.

EDIT: Ok, there might be some confusion in styles are coming in from the imported doc, too (with the same name). I think doing that may be working now. Thanks. 

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4 minutes ago, tdellaringa said:

I'm actually trying that, and it's keeping the character style but not seeming to apply the actual style - like the font should go to 9pt, but it stays at 12pt. It's like it doesn't get applied.

Sounds like you have a bunch of manually formatted text.
The 12pt has been manually applied.
The Italics have been manually applied.
So changing the paragraph style and keeping manual formatting is going to do nothing.
You need replace the manual italics with an actual character style.
And then apply paragraph styles which override all the manual formatting.

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We would really need to see the Paragraph Styles and the Character Styles. We would need to see the original imported text before you apply anything. There are so many things that could be happening.

17 minutes ago, tdellaringa said:

I have not applied anything. So the font is 12-point with things like italics applied. 

This could be caused by there being no actual Character Style applied to the italicized words. That is what is called over ridden or locally applied font attributes. A Character Style would have only Italic changed so when it is applied that is the only thing that is changed and it will remain Italic regardless of which Paragraph Style gets applied.

Use the Find and Replace Panel to find all the Italic text from the text imported from your Scrivener file (yes I know it is .docx but you must realize that things go wrong with transfers from one application [Scrivener to Pages to Publisher]). Have the Find Window set to find Italic text by hitting the little cog wheel in the Right corner next to Find. Then choose the Format and use Italic.

For Replace choose the Italic Character Style you set up by using the Character Style Menu in the cog wheel.

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I see, I will try that. What last happened was I was able to apply the style and keep the italics, but it won't apply the font size in my style. It's like saying keep the character styles means keep the font size. I thought I had changed the font size to 9 in my source doc, I will check again. But thank you, I will try this.

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The local character formating in the paragraph marked with red rectangle are not reseted if I change the font family or traits. It is a great time saver.

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