Clayton King Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I've noticed something that bugs me, but can't figure it out in Designer (but also the other products). If I have an object - say an image I've placed. And I want to draw a rectangle on top of it, starting at the upper left corner of the image. I change to the rectangle tool, but when I go to draw the rectangle, the cursor "sees" the handle of the image and changes it, rather that 'inserting' the rectangle. Is there a key combination or something to prevent this? This is a basic example, but hoping for some clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Deselect the object before you start drawing the new one. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 With the rectangle tool above the image press the ESC key, it will deselect the image, switch the cursor as expected and enable you to draw the new object. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton King Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 hours ago, thomaso said: With the rectangle tool above the image press the ESC key, it will deselect the image, switch the cursor as expected and enable you to draw the new object. I think I've got the Corel convention stuck in my head. Once a tool is used, the cursor default back to the "pick" or "more" tool, so you're automatically onto the next task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, Clayton King said: Once a tool is used, the cursor default back to the "pick" or "more" tool, so you're automatically onto the next task. No idea what you say (pick, more, next task), could be because I never had a chance to use Corel. Doesn't the ESC key work for you to continue as wanted with the rectangle tool? Clayton King 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton King Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, thomaso said: No idea what you say (pick, more, next task), could be because I never had a chance to use Corel. Doesn't the ESC key work for you to continue as wanted with the rectangle tool? It does. I just need to adjust my thinking. Thank you for the tip! thomaso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 5:43 AM, Clayton King said: I think I've got the Corel convention stuck in my head. Once a tool is used, the cursor default back to the "pick" or "more" tool, so you're automatically onto the next task. I have CorelDraw 2017, and I don't see that behavior. Just like in Designer, APhoto, the tool remains selected until I manually change to some other tool, like the Move or Pick tools. I spent the past hour scouring through the settings to see if I may have missed a setting, but could not locate a setting for this automatically reverting to the pick or move tool. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 11:43 AM, Clayton King said: Once a tool is used, the cursor default back to the "pick" or "more" tool, so you're automatically onto the next task. By the way, that Affinity does not do such a cursor auto-switch can be experienced as a feature, too. Not for your mentioned "(image)" layer when wanting to draw a new rectangle shape object but for instance to access the red handled options of any non-rectangular shape. They don't occur if the object is selected with the Move Tool but require a Vector Shape Tool, luckily just any of them. So there is no need to scroll to the specific tool (e.g. Cog Tool) to display its red handles but simply the rectangle works to make them appear on the selected cog. As long the cursor doesn't hover over the cog's handles or bounding box you still may draw the new rectangle. Considering that one rather seldom wants to draw exactly on top of an existing object this UI appears handy. While pressing ESC is easy. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton King Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 I continue to have issue where, in Publisher, I edit text. After completing my edits, I press ESC twice and V to get back to the Move tool. About half the time, this works; the other half, the text tool stays active with the cursor at the last insertion point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Clayton King said: I continue to have issue where, in Publisher, I edit text. After completing my edits, I press ESC twice and V to get back to the Move tool. About half the time, this works; the other half, the text tool stays active with the cursor at the last insertion point. I seem to have that problem if I am doing selecting and altering the text, either changing the size or colour or font. It seems as though the escape key will only work if I have been simply typing, and doing nothing else. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I seem to have that problem if I am doing selecting and altering the text, either changing the size or colour or font. It seems as though the escape key will only work if I have been simply typing, and doing nothing else. If I am changing the font or font size (say, by selecting some text and then adjusting the Context Toolbar settings) then: Esc ends the editing of the selected text, and removes the selection highlight. I remain in editing mode, with the text cursor following the text I was working on. The next Esc ends editing mode, but leaves the Text Frame active. V then switches to the Move Tool, as step 2 ended editing mode. So far I have not experienced the problem you mention, but of couse if the second Esc did not register, then V would be typed. And of course, something on Mac may work differently. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Walt you have described how it should work here on Mac. There are some problems with using the escape key or the return key or the enter key to get out of the text cells in the various studio panels. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. Now I am seeing this problem as Clayton King has stated. There are other keyboard problems with using tool shortcuts in general sometimes. I just haven't been able to come up with a guaranteed recipe. walt.farrell 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Old Bruce said: Walt you have described how it should work here on Mac. As far as I can tell, that is how it always works on my Mac. I just have to make sure I have tapped the ESC key twice. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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