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Hello,

I'm watching a lot of tutorials on cropping right now. Especially hair. Unfortunately, none of them work for me. Are there any presets that need to be fixed beforehand in the preferences?

So, selecting a person with brush (W) goes.
Then refine the hair area and select further doesn't work, because all areas that were already selected before are partially undone. So if you click on apply, you have a smear at the "edge" ziwchen hair and background.

Thanks

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If I understand you correctly, try, when you "Refine" only use the "Matte" brush, don't use "Feather". See if that works better.

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Thank you very much.
And that is exactly how it is. I make it exact until 02:00 in the video
And exactly then I have the representation like in my screen (see above)
In relation to the video, the lower edge of the mouth loses its mask again (see Hair in my screen (3)

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I think the problem Mischugo is experiencing is one I get a lot as I do many publisher articles and web pages where you need to cut out the background. Often the images supplied are with backgrounds that have a mixture of colours some with very little variation in colour to the subject image. If we had nice plain contrasting background on images as per the tutorial vid it would be great, but take the image referred to in the previous post, the hair is almost the same colour of the background.

Suggestions on how to do work with these type of images would be great. I know that manipulation colour channels has been mentioned in previous articles about images of text on discoloured paper. Is this something that would help?

 

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19 minutes ago, AlanPickup said:

I think the problem Mischugo is experiencing is one I get a lot as I do many publisher articles and web pages where you need to cut out the background. Often the images supplied are with backgrounds that have a mixture of colours some with very little variation in colour to the subject image. If we had nice plain contrasting background on images as per the tutorial vid it would be great, but take the image referred to in the previous post, the hair is almost the same colour of the background.

Suggestions on how to do work with these type of images would be great. I know that manipulation colour channels has been mentioned in previous articles about images of text on discoloured paper. Is this something that would help?

In a professional workflow, one usually paints in the hair manually after masking until it looks natural (which requires some experience, skill and time). You can use dedicated hair brushes for this (from 1 single hair to a whole bunch of them), which can be found in the web or which you could create yourself.

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3 hours ago, Andy05 said:

 

In a professional workflow, one usually paints in the hair manually after masking until it looks natural (which requires some experience, skill and time). You can use dedicated hair brushes for this (from 1 single hair to a whole bunch of them), which can be found in the web or which you could create yourself.

Thank you,
that's what I was thinking about. The tutorials on "refine" made me think that went particularly well with it. Because you can just avoid the tedious manual work with it. But, as they confirm, nothing has really changed in the procedure

Nevertheless, it still bothers me a lot that already masked areas are changed... That could be worked on, couldn't it?

And, it would be great, if Affinity brings out a special brush set for it

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Another surprise to look for when using refine is holes in the middle of the mask. 

Be sure to alt-click on the mask layer's icon to display the mask layer in black and white. Then paint with white over the gray areas that will show up even in the middle of the mask.

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A creative way.

Piximperfect has several tutorials dealing with hair selection.

All can be done in Photo even if his tutorial are based on PS.

 

 

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