Selection Bug?

[abra100pro]

See movie (with audio)

[thomaso]

Below the faulty drag-selection looks like being possibly related to certain object types, e.g. vector-cropped layers …

[thomaso]

Oh, actually the drag-selection issue does not depend on the dragging direction :

[Wosven]

There should be a setting in the preferences to select only fully or intersection.

From right to left, it looks like it needs to cover the middle of the object to select it... Or perhaps does it want the upper top and left of an object? Fully understanding it would help, but I'll admit usually clicking on the objects, even switching to wire mode for more precision when needed...

[thomaso]

Wosven, there IS such a setting. The problem is not a missing option, but a faulty function. As you can see, while dragging the selection (blue lines) is flickering for some objects, with no discernible logic or relationship to the mouse position (e.g. middle etc). And I suspect you also do not click-select a larger number of objects, such as in my sample.

[Wosven]

Sorry, it wasn't a doubt about the setting existing, more about if it was checked...

I don't know why you've got so many text frames... it look like it could be done with one with 3 columns... and for the rectangles as highlight... long ago we had a magazine using this, and it cured me of such process (Client modifying text and highlights needing to be moved or resized...)

But the important part is how the app behave.

But with your records, it seems that select intersecting items is checked.

An easy switch between intersecting items/full items would be helpful, (an option in the context tool bar?), since in this case it look like selecting whole objects (in the first video of the thread) would work best.

For your objects @thomaso
 the selection is really difficult and buggy... some logical tips or improvements would be welcome.

[garrettm30]

17 minutes ago, Wosven said:

I don't know why you've got so many text frames...

There is always the possibility that it is just a mockup for illustrating the issue.

[Wosven]

35 minutes ago, garrettm30 said:

that it is just a mockup for illustrating the issue.

Yes, that's just my maniacal tendencies for settings a document that are coming out

[thomaso]

I became aware about this selection irritation about two app versions ago, as far I remember it came together with the issue of selection marquees which belong to a different than the current page (highlighted as current in the pages panel). That other issue was reported already a few weeks ago by someone else. So this video is just for illustration / as possibly related hint to the developers.

1 hour ago, Wosven said:

I don't know why you've got so many text frames...

These are images (screenshots of an internet search result) + rectangles on top to highlight certain areas. The images are cropped via the vector crop tool to achieve certain order and arrangement. There is only one text frame, the headline above. – However, I'd expect the selection to work with any type of object. What makes you think at all, a limited number of text frames would or should matter? Just imagine an information graphic which, for instance, requires many small text frames to text various parts of an illustration.

Now, since you ask + comment, I wonder whether you can reproduce this issue, either with same type of objects or with others.

1 hour ago, Wosven said:

An easy switch between intersecting items/full items would be helpful,

No, again, I don't miss any option or new feature variant*. I just want to report an existing feature which doesn't work reliable.
(*and I doubt such a switch would prevent this issue from occurring

[Wosven]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

However, I'd expect the selection to work with any type of object.

I completely agree!

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

What makes you think at all, a limited number of text frames would or should matter?

I didn't notice, watching the video on my phone, that it wasn't text frames, but it's not the problem. Just some digression at the end of the day.

And since I rarely use this feature, of just select more than needed and unselect the object(s) I don't want in such case — if there's only few —, I didn't make tests, relying on the videos.

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

 

3 hours ago, Wosven said:

An easy switch between intersecting items/full items would be helpful,

No, again, I don't miss any option or new feature variant*. I just want to report an existing feature which doesn't work reliable.

For sure, there's a bug with this feature. But an easy switch, accessible in the toolbar like "lock children" when using the move tool would be handy. (Unless there's already a key modifier...)

The ability in Affinity apps to select easily in the layer panel can make us miss such problem.

[Gabe]

Hi all,

Thanks for spotting this. Issue logged. 

[Gabe]

On 9/24/2021 at 3:50 PM, thomaso said:

Oh, actually the drag-selection issue does not depend on the dragging direction :

 

Can you replicate this in a 1-page document? I have a feeling it's related to your other issue where the selection is on the wrong page

[thomaso]

On 9/27/2021 at 4:00 PM, Gabe said:

Can you replicate this in a 1-page document? I have a feeling it's related to your other issue where the selection is on the wrong page

Actually I can't tell. The issue does not occur with a left-to-right drag really reliable, as you can see in my previous two screencasts above. Today I don't get the issue with left-to-right drag, neither in the same document nor after copy/paste the page content to a new 1-page document. No idea what it depends on. Note that the two videos above were recorded within a few minutes of each other, without the number of pages nor the affected content having changed after the first clip was recorded.