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WHAT IS THE WAY TO : CLIPPING/MASK AND COLOUR!


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Job: helping redesign a dashboard w. fixed . 

1. My document seems intent on remaining in some funky transparency mode ( all layers NORMAL and I cannot locate ANY function or settings to "reset" layers or colours..)

2. "Path" control is excellent incl. transformation but then (rectangle) turns into (curve) and from there it just behaves "whacky".

3. Clipping mask: the "Mask layer" button in bottom of layer panel does nothing. 

I select (curve) [normal] over (on top of) image, they group in top layer and (img) is now completely "invisible" 

-> I put (img) over (curve) [normal] and the image fades out to some funk "Transparency" almost invisible.

Pretty simple things are apparently not simple.

Explanations would be appreciated. Cheers

 


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Hi,

the layer opacity is reduced to 20%.

This could happen by mistake if entering 2 on keyboard when the layer is selected.

Simply set opacity to 100% (enter 0 when layer is selected)

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Hard to tell what it is I am looking at but I think this mask should probably be black and white not very dark grey and black

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Actually it was the the only way I could make it do what seems like clipping, which was rasterising (curve (which was just a transformed rectangle w. rounded corners)).. 

The result however "transparent" 

The other methods did not work. Image just became invisible. 

Anyway.. if Mask Layer had worked as expected I wouldn't be here...

 




 

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No matter what layer order I try this [Mask Layer] [Drag] [Group] repeat, left, right back and forth, I get "nothing" or something different. It has to be a bug. I can't even merge them. 

Just a clipping of that image, it's all I want!

Desired Clipping Mask of Object - 100%.png

Image to Mask - 100%.png

It adds an empty mask to layer w. (Curve) - no change.png

The other way around, it blanks out the image?.png

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You don't even need a "mask" layer for this. Use the Masking and Clipping method, with any objects, vector or raster. 

V1 - Masking
V2 - Clipping

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6 hours ago, telemax said:

You don't even need a "mask" layer for this. Use the Masking and Clipping method, with any objects, vector or raster. 

V1 - Masking
V2 - Clipping

 




Alright, I managed by making a [rounded rectangle] instead and it worked, easy peasy as it should. Somewhere manipulating my rectangle apparently compromised my [Mask] by making it into a [Curve] which will not do the trick. 

Question: how do you make a custom shape from a rectangle (re)become a [Clipping Mask] when it's a (Curve)? (Why does editing (Rectangle) become (Curve)?) 

Shout out to Telemax! Aces

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52 minutes ago, SKO said:

Question: how do you make a custom shape from a rectangle (re)become a [Clipping Mask] when it's a (Curve)?

Unfortunately, I do not understand your question.

52 minutes ago, SKO said:

(Why does editing (Rectangle) become (Curve)?) 

Editing?

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1 hour ago, SKO said:

Question: how do you make a custom shape from a rectangle (re)become a [Clipping Mask] when it's a (Curve)? (Why does editing (Rectangle) become (Curve)?) 

You cant. Its one way custom shape to curve. No return.

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9 hours ago, SKO said:

Question: how do you make a custom shape from a rectangle (re)become a [Clipping Mask] when it's a (Curve)?

 

8 hours ago, NotMyFault said:

You cant. Its one way custom shape to curve. No return.

 

1 hour ago, SKO said:

Well, that explains my headache, it's not obvious (and it does not make sense). Cheers.


Conversion in the opposite direction wouldn’t make sense to me! When you ‘Convert to Curves’ you necessarily lose the connection with the original parametric shape.

Consider a simple example. You can use the Pie Tool or the Crescent Tool to create a closed semicircle: if it were possible to make a parametric Pie or Crescent shape from a closed semicircle (whether originally converted from a parametric shape or drawn manually) how would the app know which one to make?

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@Alfred: the conversion happens during the editing (fitting) process.

I never asked it [Rectangle, Ellipse, Rounded Rectangle, Triangle] to become a [Curve] (that happened unbeknownst to me and I only found out by remaking a [Rounded Rectangle])

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34 minutes ago, SKO said:

@Alfred: the conversion happens during the editing (fitting) process.

I never asked it [Rectangle, Ellipse, Rounded Rectangle, Triangle] to become a [Curve] (that happened unbeknownst to me and I only found out by remaking a [Rounded Rectangle])

To my knowledge you must explicitly click „convert to curves“, there is no other operation which implicitly (hidden) converts. Alfred corrected me: Geometric Boolean operations will automatically convert to curves.

 

Note that Affinity has so called assistants which could automatically convert layers e.g. to pixel layers (if activated, which is the default - but then shows a notification by default, too).

https://affinity.help/photoipad/English.lproj/pages/DesignAids/AssistantManager.html

The conversion function itself is well documented in help and multiple tutorial videos.

https://affinity.help/photoipad/English.lproj/pages/CurvesShapes/converttocurves.html

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1 minute ago, NotMyFault said:

To my knowledge you must explicitly click „convert to curves“, there is no other operating which implicitly (hidden) converts.

If you use one of the Boolean operators the result will necessarily be a curve, so if you select a parametric shape and click on ‘Add’ it will be added to itself to produce a shape which looks the same but is no longer parametric.

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Just now, Alfred said:

If you use one of the Boolean operators the result will necessarily be a curve, so if you select a parametric shape and click on ‘Add’ it will be added to itself to produce a shape which looks the same but is no longer parametric.

Alfred got me again.😂

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