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Round Brush Edge Problem (AP1.10.1)


Phojoegraphy

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I noticed a brush issue in 1.10 and 1.10.1 where despite the settings, the basic round brush itself is not 100% opaque at the center and there is a hard opaque ring around the edge at every hardness setting. All brush dynamics are zeroed out. No textures or sub-brushes used. Same results using Mouse or Tablet. Wet edges are zeroed out. It's negatively affecting photo retouching and drawing.

 

(MacOS 11.5.1 M1 iMac)

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2 hours ago, Phojoegraphy said:

Looks like regardless of the brush wet edge settings, if it's checked on the menu bar, it behaves this way. Don't remember it working this way prior to 10.1

 

It would help if we saw a screenshot including a brush stroke that crosses over itself, and the Context Toolbar.

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Hi @BelAffinity,
Welcome to Affinity Forums :)
Can you attach a screenshot of the whole app window with the Paint Brush Tool selected (assuming that's the tool you are using) and the Layers panel visible please?
What you are showing above doesn't seem related with the Wet Edges issue mentioned a couple posts above. Thanks.

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On 9/15/2021 at 9:36 PM, MEB said:

Hi @BelAffinity,
Welcome to Affinity Forums :)
Can you attach a screenshot of the whole app window with the Paint Brush Tool selected (assuming that's the tool you are using) and the Layers panel visible please?
What you are showing above doesn't seem related with the Wet Edges issue mentioned a couple posts above. Thanks.

It seems to have been resolved and not sure what setting. When I do have this same issue come up again will attach a screenshot of it. Thank you for your help

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@MEB  @Chris B

I found the issue/bug that's plaguing me. Let's say for example, I use a basic round brush with no wet edge. If I then select a brush that uses wet edges and then go back to that same basic round brush, wet edges remains selected.

The only way to fix this behavior that I can see is to go into the brush settings and change it to "set wet edges off" which is a pain to do if one has potentially dozens or hundreds of brushes. 

(This is using Photo 1.10.4 on M1 iMac.)

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1 hour ago, Phojoegraphy said:

If I then select a brush that uses wet edges and then go back to that same basic round brush, wet edges remains selected.

In case you don't understand why that happens, it's because the Use Wet Edges setting is a ternary, not binary, setting:

  1. Set it on (Use Wet Edges)
  2. Set it off (Don't Use Wet Edges)
  3. Leave it alone

With some brushes, Wet Edges will usually be wanted. With others, Wet Edges will usually not be wanted. And with some, they can work well either way, depending on the user's needs/desires. Those brushes use option 3.

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6 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

In case you don't understand why that happens, it's because the Use Wet Edges setting is a ternary, not binary, setting:

  1. Set it on (Use Wet Edges)
  2. Set it off (Don't Use Wet Edges)
  3. Leave it alone

With some brushes, Wet Edges will usually be wanted. With others, Wet Edges will usually not be wanted. And with some, they can work well either way, depending on the user's needs/desires. Those brushes use option 3.

I understand why it happens, hence my post above. It's just mind boggling why someone thought it was a good idea to have it work like that in the first place. In my years of using Photoshop, I never had to look to turn wet edges off on a brush that doesn't invoke it because it inherited it from a previous brush. For as slick as the UI in Affinity apps is, this behavior is baffling.   

 

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